The Reid Scale: Classic Unsolved Murder Cases

[sdreid]

My basis is suspect certainty to uncertainty per a given case.

[Magpie]

Constable K, that's interesting. Can't think of one right off. Is there an example?

Roy

Some I can that I can think of offhand:

level 6: The Black Dahlia/Baurforf murders

Level 7:
Marilyn Monroe
The so-called "smiley face" murders.

[Magpie]

Stan:

Out of curiosity, where would you put the Hurricane Carter case?

[sdreid]

A 3 probably Magpie.

[Magpie]

A 3 probably Magpie.

Ah, right. Sorry, I missed the "standing" part. Good call.

[sdreid]

Although Carter's conviction was thrown out, if I remember correctly, he was never pardoned or declared innocent.

[sdreid]

Not that a pardon is the same as a reversal of conviction.

[Magpie]

Although Carter's conviction was thrown out, if I remember correctly, he was never pardoned or declared innocent.

That's because pretty much everyone knows that he did it.

[sdreid]

That's my view.

[sdreid]

Not that a pardon is the same as a reversal of conviction.

Derek Bentley was pardoned first then his conviction was later quashed which is a reversal of conviction.

[sdreid]

Additional examples:

0-Jeffrey Dahmer
1-Nicola Sacco
2-Toni Mancini
3-Great Hartford Circus Fire
4-Jack the Stripper
5-Charles Mattson Kidnapping/Murder

[sdreid]

Derek Bentley was pardoned first then his conviction was later quashed which is a reversal of conviction.

It didn't make much difference since he'd already been hanged.

[sdreid]

1-Nicola Sacco

In 1977 Governor Dukakis issued a proclamation doubting that the trial of Nicola Sacco and his partner Bartolomeo Vanzetti was conducted fairly. This was not even a pardon let alone a reversal of conviction. Even this resulted in an attempt by the Massachusetts Senate to censure the governor.

[sdreid]

Tony Mancini was found not guilty but later confessed to the murder knowing that he could not be prosecuted a second time. His admission may have been for pay or to get attention but it was also probably the truth.

[sdreid]

I believe is wasn't until 1976 that Mancini gave it up; so 42 years after the fact.