Originally posted by Christine
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Yorkshire Ripper to be freed?
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There was mention made a few years ago about Raymond Morris being released. I didn't hear anything else about it, but would be interested to know if he was. He'd be in his late 70s by now, I reckon.
I, too, believe Sutcliffe initially faked his symptoms. Enough years in Broadmoor, though, and he's probably far more mentally ill now than he was back then.
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For what it's worth, I agree with Monty, no government wants to be forever associated with the release of the monsterous Sutcliffe. Call me cynical
but I don't believe they'd risk the mountain of votes they'd lose
all the best
Observer
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I personally do not believe Sutcliffe has been rehabilitated for several reasons. Firstly, I don't think he was insane to start with. He was a sadistic killer who 'used' his wife's experience of mental illness to fool the psychiatrists - probably the same fools who say he is ready to be released into a more relaxed, lower security institution.
Secondly, I do not trust the judgement of psychiatrists to decide whether a man like Sutcliffe is rehabilitated and no longer poses a danger. They have been wrong before.
finally, as several other people have stated, Sutcliffe does not deserve to be released under any circumstances. He destroyed many lives, deprived people of their loved ones and damaged people beyond repair. he should pay with his own freedom. If he is released, he will be a burden on the tax payer as a free man. If we have to pay for him for the rest of his life, we should pay to keep him locked up and he should be grateful for that and live with it.
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Originally posted by kensei View PostIt reminds me of the treatment that Ronald Reagan's attempted assassin John Hinckley ended up getting. But I wonder- would this be the first convicted serial killer ever to gain eventual release? It seems outrageous. It might seem "politically incorrect" of me, but instead of showing leniency to someone because they are mentally ill, if someone has committed crimes of this magnitude I really think that keeping them locked up BECAUSE they are insane would be better reccomended.
Even if they make him wear an ankle bracelet, they can tell where he is but they can't tell what he's doing there.
I fear something very bad may happen here.
In the US, if someone is cured with drugs as they say Sutcliffe is, then he can be tried again for the murders and sent to a proper prison.
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The PC brigade will probably forgive him for the murders and then arrest him for being overweight.
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He's no threat? What a crock. Is this just about rehabilitation? What about punishment for his crimes? He ought to be doing life sentences, with no parole, for every person he murdered. Imagine the screaming and protests that are going to be done when he gets out and kills his first victim. Makes more sense to do the protests now and keep his but* in prison.
I hope you folks are right when you say they won't let him out. It seems unreasonable that they would. Manson has been up for parole a few times and he has yet to be released. Different system, of course, but maybe it will be the same with this ghoul.
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He'll be deemed sane, arrangements will be made to send him to a prison with lesser security. David Cameron will give a quick soundbite saying this is wrong. Sutcliffe will then remain where he is and the Tories will go up several points in the opinion polls.
Chris Lowe
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I don't think he should be released. Life should mean life in his case (and for other cases of similar severity), especially because he recieved multiple life sentences.
Is he rehabilitated? Only the psychiatrists and parole officers can decide that. However, he caused too much harm, to the 13 women he killed (Wilma McCann, Emily Jackson, Irene Rochardson, Patricia Atkinson, Jayne MacDonald, Jean Jordan, Yvonne Pearson, Helen Rytka, Vera Millward, Josephine Whittaker, Barbara Leach, Marguerite Walls and Jacqueline Hill) and to their families, to deserve to be free to make use of it.
I do doubt he'll ever be released, mainly because I agree with ianincleveland that there'll be vigilante mobs out as soon as the press get wind of it. If the papers have no problems getting photos of him while he's in jail (and they haven't in the past) then getting them when he's on the streets will be no bother, nor will his address be out of reach. He'll be kept in for his own safety, as much as that of others.
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I have watched with interest the debate this sensational news story has created and am amazed at the response. A large amount of people, from the world over, both male and female have argued that he should never be released, regardless of wether he is reformed or not.
He killed and injured, made families suffer, and the feelings are still strong in the local communites today.
That said, one hopes that if they do release him from Broadmoor, he is still imprisoned, albeit in another prison.
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I don't think Sutcliffe is a threat anymore but..if it had been my sister, my mother, my friend he had murdered I don't think I'd be happy with him being released.
Anyway, like I said, by the sounds of it he wouldn't be too mobile.
Again, like I said, hanging in 82 would have been justice.
There you go.
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He's no threat anymore but he should not be released. No way.
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Originally posted by Monty View PostThat one previous poster would be myself Nothing to see.
Monty
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