R.L.S., H.J., & E.H.: a questions of sources and results

[Pierre]

[QUOTE=Mayerling;405034]

Well, a dichotomy representation of the two 16th Century Queens for Mary Kelly is curious, to say the least.

One thing has bothered me about the Tennyson play. I have a copy of it in an old edition of the complete poems and plays of Tennyson, and I ploughed through it. What brought that awful play to your attention?

Hi Jeff,

The murder of Mary Jane Kelly on Lord Mayor´s Day brought it to my attention.

Regards, Pierre

[Mayerling]

[QUOTE=Pierre;405064]

Hi Jeff,

The murder of Mary Jane Kelly on Lord Mayor´s Day brought it to my attention.

Regards, Pierre

Hi Pierre,

I'm not asking here for how you connect ideas, like Mary Kelly, Lord Mayor's Day, and "Queen Mary" by Tennyson, but how you ended up ever reading the play. It's not a good play, and it is certainly not considered on the same level of any well known work by that poet, like "Idylls of the King", "Locksley Hall", "The Charge of the Light Brigade", or even his short poem, "Ulysses". This is the equivalent to somebody discussing, say Jules Verne, and instead of talking about "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea" or "Journey to the Centre of the Earth", discussing the merits of some long forgotten short story, "The Humbug". I have nothing against literary studies, but this was from left field. Did you study up on Tennyson for a course?

Jeff

[Henry Flower]

[QUOTE=Mayerling;405082]

Hi Pierre,

I'm not asking here for how you connect ideas, like Mary Kelly, Lord Mayor's Day, and "Queen Mary" by Tennyson, but how you ended up ever reading the play. It's not a good play, and it is certainly not considered on the same level of any well known work by that poet, like "Idylls of the King", "Locksley Hall", "The Charge of the Light Brigade", or even his short poem, "Ulysses". This is the equivalent to somebody discussing, say Jules Verne, and instead of talking about "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea" or "Journey to the Centre of the Earth", discussing the merits of some long forgotten short story, "The Humbug". I have nothing against literary studies, but this was from left field. Did you study up on Tennyson for a course?

Jeff

Jeff, I admire your gift for comedy!

The idea that he read the play!

[Henry Flower]

He is busy decoding his gogmagog letter. Intrigued by the grand gilt coach he Googles the phrase. The third link takes him to Letters of Tennyson 1851-1870, which opens to a letter using a similar phrase. He goes to online-literature.com to explore some works of Tennyson, the third piece in the list of works is Queen Mary: A Drama. That's probably enough for him. He glanced at the link for the Dramatis Personae. He wrongly assumes it's the other Queen Mary, notes the presence of a Princess Elizabeth. It's done.

That is what the poster calls researching, analyzing sources. He loves the phrase internal and external source criticism, but we saw no evidence that he'd actually done anything more substantial than what I just did.

[GUT]

[QUOTE=Henry Flower;405090]

Jeff, I admire your gift for comedy!

The idea that he read the play!

But don't you know the next degree he will claim is literature.

[Mayerling]

[QUOTE=Henry Flower;405090]

Jeff, I admire your gift for comedy!

The idea that he read the play!

Yes, but I did read it. Someone should pay for that!

Jeff

[Mayerling]

He is busy decoding his gogmagog letter. Intrigued by the grand gilt coach he Googles the phrase. The third link takes him to Letters of Tennyson 1851-1870, which opens to a letter using a similar phrase. He goes to online-literature.com to explore some works of Tennyson, the third piece in the list of works is Queen Mary: A Drama. That's probably enough for him. He glanced at the link for the Dramatis Personae. He wrongly assumes it's the other Queen Mary, notes the presence of a Princess Elizabeth. It's done.

That is what the poster calls researching, analyzing sources. He loves the phrase internal and external source criticism, but we saw no evidence that he'd actually done anything more substantial than what I just did.

Sounds very reasonable Henry, but I'd like him to explain it, if he could.

Jeff

[Mayerling]

[QUOTE=GUT;405131]

But don't you know the next degree he will claim is literature.

Yes he might. And from my reading Verne's "Twenty Thousand Leagues" maybe I should claim to be an expert on building privately owned, palatial submarines!

[Henry Flower]

Yes, but I did read it. Someone should pay for that!

Jeff

[Pcdunn]

I see the beat goes on...

Happy (Belated) New Year, all.

[Pierre]

Sounds very reasonable Henry, but I'd like him to explain it, if he could.

Jeff

Isn´t it sufficient with the "explanations" given by the attackers "Henry Flower", "David Orsam" and "GUT"?

Pierre

[Mayerling]

Isn´t it sufficient with the "explanations" given by the attackers "Henry Flower", "David Orsam" and "GUT"?

Pierre

Perhaps, but the enquiry was directed to you. This was not an inquiry into what your central theory is, but just how exactly you ended up acquainted with this play by Tennyson. Telling me won't damage your control over your own work, it just informs me about your reading a bit. That's all.

Jeff

[GUT]

Yes he might. And from my reading Verne's "Twenty Thousand Leagues" maybe I should claim to be an expert on building privately owned, palatial submarines!

Why not. (You might get a tax deduction anyway).

Doesn't take much for that one to claim to be an expert on anything.

Still can't believe he claims to be a great historian

[Mayerling]

I see the beat goes on...

Happy (Belated) New Year, all.

Belatedly, Happy New Year to you too!

Jeff

[GUT]

I see the beat goes on...

Happy (Belated) New Year, all.

Back at ya.