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    In the New York Times for today, August 13, 2015, in the first section (p. A10) was an article that DNA proved that President Warren G. Harding (1865 - 1923; 1921-1923) was the grandfather of a gentleman living in Oregon, the grandson of Nan Britton, the young woman who wrote the book "The President's Daughter" in the late 1920s, and met with a chorus of catcalls for bringing additional disgrace on the late President.

    Harding had, for many decades, languished at the bottom of the list of Presidents in terms of reputation - and was widely considered the worst - due to the "Teapot Dome/Elk Hill" Naval Reserve Oil Scandals, the "Veteran's Bureau Hospital Scandal", and the "Alien Property Scandal" which all broke out while he was President. However, in recent years Harding's standing went up because he was an outspoken supporter of African-American rights, and he had supported naval disarmament under his Secretary of State Charles Evans Hughes. Harding was also responsible for forcing the steel industry to end the use of the 12-hour day, thus becoming the last major industry to do so.

    Moreover Harding looked better after the Nixon - Watergate Scandal, as well as the questionable moves of the George W. Bush administration in expanding the Mideast wars, and even in the wake of the Lewinsky Scandal and Presidential impeachment trial of President Clinton.

    Harding had been married to Florence Kling, whose father was the richest man in Marion, Ohio. He was the second husband to Florence, who had two children by her first husband. The Hardings had no children of their own, and it was said this was due to a case of mumps in Harding's adolescence which left him impotent. This was an argument used to denounce Nan Britton's claims as false.

    However, a grand niece of Warren gave the DNA sample to compare to Nan's grandson, and the two match very well. Most Harding family members accept the paternity as being established (meaning Warren has descendants now).

    Amos Kling, the father of Florence, had opposed the marriage to Harding, and actually confronted him in Marion, claiming that he was of non-white birth. In the late 19th century this was a really nasty insult (one most of us would not be too upset about at all today). The chief reason (aside from Mr. Kling's deep distrust and dislike of Harding) was that Harding had been born in Blooming Grove, a small town near Marion with a large African-American population. It was easy to make an accusation like that Kling made toward Harding.

    During the 1920 election for the Presidency a Professor William E. Chancellor of the University of Wooster in Ohio, spread the rumor of Harding's ancestry around the country. Later he would publish a questionable pamphlet to document his claims about Harding (Chancellor was not a teacher of biology or genetics, but of elocution). The rumor never left Harding's reputation.

    In examining the DNA sample it turned out that the Hardings don't have any gentic material that shows a sub-Saharan line of descent. Aparently Chancellor was wrong about this.

    Jeff

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    Coool.

    I wonder if they can use DNA to prove that a current candidate's (think WIG) had met before he was born.
    G U T

    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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    • #3
      With all his millions you'd think he'd be able to buy a decent wig, not that strange arrangement that's currently plonked on top of his skull. He hasn't minded making some remarks about Obama's parentage.

      Interesting about Harding though. If he had had mumps that would have made him sterile wouldn't it, rather than impotent? They explained away the Duke of Windsor's childlessness on his having had mumps when young as well.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Rosella View Post
        With all his millions you'd think he'd be able to buy a decent wig, not that strange arrangement that's currently plonked on top of his skull. He hasn't minded making some remarks about Obama's parentage.

        Interesting about Harding though. If he had had mumps that would have made him sterile wouldn't it, rather than impotent? They explained away the Duke of Windsor's childlessness on his having had mumps when young as well.

        Sterile, but semantics really in the context.
        Last edited by GUT; 08-13-2015, 09:32 PM.
        G U T

        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Rosella View Post
          With all his millions you'd think he'd be able to buy a decent wig, not that strange arrangement that's currently plonked on top of his skull. He hasn't minded making some remarks about Obama's parentage.

          Interesting about Harding though. If he had had mumps that would have made him sterile wouldn't it, rather than impotent? They explained away the Duke of Windsor's childlessness on his having had mumps when young as well.
          Hi Rosella, and G'Day GUT.

          Actually it was that the mumps left Harding sterile - I used the wrong word. Oddly enough a similar story was told of George Washington never being able to have children for the same reason (a case of mumps or measles when a young adult). Yet during the Washington Presidency (and even in the American Revolution) a rumor spread that Alexander Hamilton was the illegitimate son of Washington (Washington had gone to Barbados in the 1750s - his only trip outside the continent of North America - and Hamilton was born between 1751 and 1757 illegitimately, supposedly to a member of the Hamilton aristocratic family from Scotland).

          I really vented so much spleen against the Donald the other day I have promised myself not to go off half cocked again for a couple of days until my blood pressure returns to normal. I will say that that toupee is not the only thing that is a cover-up concerning the graduate of the Wharton Business School.

          Jeff

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          • #6
            In college, I had the privilege to take a history course from Wesley Bagby, who wrote a book about the 1920 election. He was in his 80s then (and this was 20 years ago), but he had little doubt Harding was the father!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rosella View Post
              With all his millions you'd think he'd be able to buy a decent wig, not that strange arrangement that's currently plonked on top of his skull. He hasn't minded making some remarks about Obama's parentage.
              Just shows money can't buy taste.
              G U T

              There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mayerling View Post
                Hi Rosella, and G'Day GUT.

                Actually it was that the mumps left Harding sterile - I used the wrong word. Oddly enough a similar story was told of George Washington never being able to have children for the same reason (a case of mumps or measles when a young adult). Yet during the Washington Presidency (and even in the American Revolution) a rumor spread that Alexander Hamilton was the illegitimate son of Washington (Washington had gone to Barbados in the 1750s - his only trip outside the continent of North America - and Hamilton was born between 1751 and 1757 illegitimately, supposedly to a member of the Hamilton aristocratic family from Scotland).

                I really vented so much spleen against the Donald the other day I have promised myself not to go off half cocked again for a couple of days until my blood pressure returns to normal. I will say that that toupee is not the only thing that is a cover-up concerning the graduate of the Wharton Business School.

                Jeff
                G'day Jeff

                I had Glandular Fever and after it they thought for a whole that I was sterile told herself and I that we'd be lucky if she ever got pregnant [my count wasn't zero but darn close] she went of the pill.

                You got it ... a week later ....
                G U T

                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GUT View Post
                  G'day Jeff

                  I had Glandular Fever and after it they thought for a whole that I was sterile told herself and I that we'd be lucky if she ever got pregnant [my count wasn't zero but darn close] she went of the pill.

                  You got it ... a week later ....
                  G'Day GUT,

                  In 1980 my sister and brother-in-law were blessed by the birth of a son. Later in the 1980s my sister's gynecologist gave her the sad news that due to some hitherto unseen puncture from the childbirth on her uterine wall, Lee would be unable to give birth to anymore children.

                  We were glad they had their son, but sorry nothing further would happen. Then in 1994 Lee informed us she was pregnant again, and she repeated the news in 1996. Right now she, her husband and their two daughters are on a trip visiting the oldest child in the Midwest.

                  In 1998, Lee (who was working then), called to tell us she had just been promoted. She started the conversation by telling me she had wonderful news. Immediately I said, "David [her son] is going to have a brother!" She quickly corrected that error.

                  Last week David and his wife had a little boy. Now I'm a great uncle as well as an uncle.

                  Jeff

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