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Originally posted by Wickerman View PostI love it how these Republicans embarrass themselves and their party.G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
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Originally posted by Mayerling View PostYou're right GUT, but the Republicans turn it into a remarkably effective art form - and seem to get away with it.
I guess you don't hear about them as much as we hear about your President etc.G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
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Originally posted by GUT View PostYou should see some of the things the idiots down here do and say.
I guess you don't hear about them as much as we hear about your President etc.
We do hear some news of Australian politics. The other day there was some possible scandal that the current government in Canberra was making some sweetheart deal with smugglers for some purpose. Recently I noted the obituary of some one time tycoon who ended up in prison (the one who bankrolled Australia winning the America's cup in the mid 1980s). I do try to keep an eye out for these items. I can't speak for the other 300,000,000 Americans, but I make an effort to do so.
Jeff
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Originally posted by Mayerling View PostG'day GUT,
We do hear some news of Australian politics. The other day there was some possible scandal that the current government in Canberra was making some sweetheart deal with smugglers for some purpose. Recently I noted the obituary of some one time tycoon who ended up in prison (the one who bankrolled Australia winning the America's cup in the mid 1980s). I do try to keep an eye out for these items. I can't speak for the other 300,000,000 Americans, but I make an effort to do so.
Jeff
I wasn't being critical of people not keeping up just I imagine reporting of what goes on down here isn't, it seems, real common in the USA.
Yes big carry on over people smugglers being paid to turn back, funny thing is that yet again it looks like both parties were dong it.
And poor old Bondy from a sign painter to Billionaire to Bankrupt and Prison and back to multi-millionaire.
Kerry Packer [a media tycoon] sold his TV station to Bond for a Billion Dollars and bought it back again for 50 million a few years later quipped "You only get one Alan Bond in your lifetime, you need to be ready".G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
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Originally posted by Wickerman View PostSpeaking of which, Donald Trump is running for President!!
Should be good for the Late Night funnies.
Hope he gets a new rug first.G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
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Originally posted by GUT View PostG'day Jeff
I wasn't being critical of people not keeping up just I imagine reporting of what goes on down here isn't, it seems, real common in the USA.
Yes big carry on over people smugglers being paid to turn back, funny thing is that yet again it looks like both parties were dong it.
And poor old Bondy from a sign painter to Billionaire to Bankrupt and Prison and back to multi-millionaire.
Kerry Packer [a media tycoon] sold his TV station to Bond for a Billion Dollars and bought it back again for 50 million a few years later quipped "You only get one Alan Bond in your lifetime, you need to be ready".
But ask us to name ten major historical figures connected with Canada or Mexico. If they name five for each I congratulate them, and these countries are our neighbors. It becomes dismal the further away you go south. We know the Perons in Argentina, but who was the dictator of Argentina in the 1830s - 1850s who Charles Darwin mentioned in "The Voyage of H.M.S. Beagle"? (It was Rosas, who retired to become an English country gentleman - probably a model for Conan Doyle's "Henderson/Don Murillo" or "The Tiger of San Pedro" in "The Adventure of Wisteria Lodge"). Brazilian figures of importance are even less obvious to us. Getulio Vargas was their main ruler in the 1930s and 1940s, and eventually committed suicide (we think). The current one is a woman, and I am sorry to have to say I don't know her name - and she is in the middle of a somewhat unfair scandal right now). Aside from Vargas the only ones I recall are the two Brazillian Emperors, Pedro I and Pedro II, the aviation pioneer Albertos Santos-Dumont (who made most of his flying contributions in France), and the composer Heitor Villa-Lobos. Not really much there.
You can guess that it is even harder for Americans with Australia and New Zealand and Polynesia. Much we get from sensationalism or movies: Captain William Bligh (later Governor Bligh of New South Wales, who supposedly hid under his bed during MacArthur's revolution in 1807), Fletcher Christian, the crew of the "Bounty" (because of at least four films, not to mention Bligh's interesting account - but how many of the crewmen do we recall? The sole surviving one in 1826 on Pitcairn was Mr. John Adams (that wasn't his real name). I recall that because his name is the same as our second President - who died in Massachusetts in 1826!), Ned Kelly, maybe Daniel Morgan, and a few other bushrangers, Harold Lassiter, the old prospector who may have died because of his trying to locate the world's richest gold reef in Australia's hinterlands, and maybe Field Marshall Blamey, who fought so hard in New Guinea, and won General MacArthur's respect - so that he was on the U.S.S. Missouri when Japan formally surrendered. Except for memories of the Prime Minister who drowned in the 1960s, few Americans know who Alfred Deakin or Philip Curtain or Robert Menzies were. However, there are now plenty of movie stars like Gibson, Rush, Flynn, who we can think of. But how many have heard of your only Nobel Literary Prize winner? Or how many have heard of the tragedy of "DIG" in 1862 involving Burke and Wills?
And all of this is just the Australian world - we haven't gone into New Zealand. I know that the man who pushed middle class settlement in Australia was Edward Gibbon Wakefield (a distant relative of the historian) who served time for abducting an heiress in the 1820s, and put it to good use considering immigration. But I happen to be into historical crime and characters. Aside from him the only major figures in New Zealand I recall are Kini Te Kenawa the opera/concert diva (who is technically not actually a New Zealander though she resides there - she is Maori), Ngaio Marsh the mystery novelist, Sir Edmund Hillary, and that seems to be it.
I am hardly an expert on most countries, but in some senses I am more aware of things than most Americans. And if my standards are the best - that's scary!
Jeff
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Jeff
You seem to know more than me.
t is to me scary that most Aussie can tell you the first President of the USA but not the first Prime Minister of Australia.
The missing PM BTW was Harold Holt, went for a little swim [in some pretty dangerous waters] and was never seen again, more conspiracy theories than you can jump over there.
I'm not sure I can name many more K1W1s than you have unless they were cricketers or Rugby players, but NZ doesn't count anyway, should have been another State (a bit of sibling rivalry there).G U T
There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.
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