boxing

[Robert St Devil]

Any takers on Canelo vs Cotto this weekend?

[GUT]

watched the video eh GUT... I love that Juddah was going bonkers after the fight was stopped, and tried to attack the ref claiming is was an unfair stoppage and he wasn’t hurt...really now.. not hurt... ok Zab that makes you the KING of DENIAL

Steadmund Brand

Haven't watched it yet, but remember it well.

[Steadmund Brand]

watched the video eh GUT... I love that Juddah was going bonkers after the fight was stopped, and tried to attack the ref claiming is was an unfair stoppage and he wasn’t hurt...really now.. not hurt... ok Zab that makes you the KING of DENIAL

Steadmund Brand

[GUT]

Oh god the Tszyu /Hatton fight was terrible....it was just a poor job by the ref, Hatton would not stop holding so Tszyu just quit on his stool... out of frustration more than anything I believe... I asked Tzsyu about that when he was inducted into the Hall of Fame and he said.. it's hard enough fighting one man in the ring, there was no point in fighting two.. great answer I thought, and I am not a Yankee who just wants to bash Hatton.. I was a big fan of Ricky.. but that Tszyu fight was pathetic!!!

Anyone who wants to see a great KO youtube Kostya Tszyu vs Zab Judah...you actually see a man knocked down twice with one punch.... seriously!!


Steadmund Brand

That was one hell of a punch.

Now who was t who sad

Trainer "Hnag in there he isn't laying a glove on you".

Boxer "Well watch the ref 'cause someone is sure as hell knocking me about"

[Steadmund Brand]

Oh god the Tszyu /Hatton fight was terrible....it was just a poor job by the ref, Hatton would not stop holding so Tszyu just quit on his stool... out of frustration more than anything I believe... I asked Tzsyu about that when he was inducted into the Hall of Fame and he said.. it's hard enough fighting one man in the ring, there was no point in fighting two.. great answer I thought, and I am not a Yankee who just wants to bash Hatton.. I was a big fan of Ricky.. but that Tszyu fight was pathetic!!!

Anyone who wants to see a great KO youtube Kostya Tszyu vs Zab Judah...you actually see a man knocked down twice with one punch.... seriously!!


Steadmund Brand

[GUT]

Yep he was Good with a capital G, and a tough little bugger to boot.

[Fleetwood Mac]

Kostya was brilliant, I remember after his 1st pro fight he absolutely smashed his opponent and after the fight said to Johnny Lewis,

why have to knock him out 1st round,

Johnny said who told you that,

Kostya You did

Johnny stopped and thought, No Kostya I sad make sure you win the 1st round that''' make me happy.


And of course the greatest ever from Aus was Les Darcy the Middlewieght who held the Australian Heavyweight title and was born just down the road from where I live,

Kostya Tszyu was a top fighter. Credit where it's due. Ricky put him away, but Tszyu's career was winding down, and even though he was slightly past his best the bookies and the people here didn't really fancy Ricky to win that one, which shows that Tszyu was held in high regard here.

Would have been dealt with by Mayweather when both at their best, but that's no shame because we're talking about one of the best ever at any weight.

Really good fighter who would undoubtedly have knocked over the likes of Amir Khan and a few more talked about fighters. I would say in the last 10 years could live with anyone apart from Mayweather and the Philippine.

[GUT]

And GUT, I would have to agree jeff Fenech was the best of the Aussie fighters.. unless you count Kostya Tszyu (who defected to Australia and fought out of Australia)

Steadmund Brand

Kostya was brilliant, I remember after his 1st pro fight he absolutely smashed his opponent and after the fight said to Johnny Lewis,

why have to knock him out 1st round,

Johnny said who told you that,

Kostya You did

Johnny stopped and thought, No Kostya I sad make sure you win the 1st round that''' make me happy.


And of course the greatest ever from Aus was Les Darcy the Middlewieght who held the Australian Heavyweight title and was born just down the road from where I live,

[Steadmund Brand]

And GUT, I would have to agree jeff Fenech was the best of the Aussie fighters.. unless you count Kostya Tszyu (who defected to Australia and fought out of Australia)

Steadmund Brand

[Steadmund Brand]

Hi Steadmund,

I have read that Theodore Roosevelt sparred with Sullivan on one or two occasions. As you know while in the Presidency, TR was training with a boxer (not Sullivan) and got a powerful blow to one of his eyes, that eventually blinded him in that eye.

In you books on boxing have you a decent biography on Queensbury? I have read up on the disagreeable Marquis (mostly concerning his relations with his wife and sons - and by extension his destruction of Oscar Wilde - and his being generally disliked as a boor by most of good society in his day. I have wondered why he became so fascinated with pugilism that he actually codified the rules of the modern sport.

Jeff

Good day.. I don’t have a good bio on Queensbury, but there are enough tid-bits on other books I have to put a good picture together, actually it is a misconception that he wrote the rules for modern boxing, in fact, what he did was lend his name to them, he publicly endorsed the rules, that were actually written by John Graham Chambers.

I know that he was always a boxing fan, and in the 1860's he was a co-founder of the Amateur Athletic Club (which I believe still exists.. but you would have to ask one of our friends across the pond if that is so or not).. and that club is what the rules Queensbury endorsed were for.. he was a rather odd character indeed.

Steadmund Brand

[Steadmund Brand]

Steadmund,

Were you writing during the days of Buffalonian "Baby" Joe Mesi?

Sincerely,

Mike

Hello there Mike,

I was writting then, but I never wrote about Joe, I know him, so felt it I could not be objective on the subject, ya know. At the same time you know Buffalo have another great fight, who actually got a world Title Shot named Ross Thompson, I always felt bad he was ignored by local media, in fact I don't think the Buffalo news had one thing written about him before or after his World Title shot on HBO.. really sad... but not suprising... poor Ross, his career was no dream.. ended up as a 5'9 Heavyweight (from welterweight to Heavyweight.. yiked) then he was stabbed 10 times and shot outside of a bar in Buffalo..and lived (thankfully).. but sad story, great guy.

Steadmund Brand

Steadmund Brand

[The Good Michael]

Jack Johnson.


Mike

[sdreid]

The Corbett-Fitzsimmons Fight in 1897 is credited as being the first feature length film (running just over 100 minutes in unedited form) and the first movie shot in wide screen.

What is believed to be the first narrative feature length movie is a true-crime film, The Story of the Ned Kelly Gang (1906).

[Mayerling]

Mayerling- the only footage I have ever seen of John L Sullivan is of him as an old fat man punching a speed bag ( kinda.. he misses it more than he hits it) ...

I am a bit of a historian of the sport myself and have quite a nice collection of books some dealing with pre 1900 boxing,, facinating stuff!!


Steadmund Brand

Hi Steadmund,

I have read that Theodore Roosevelt sparred with Sullivan on one or two occasions. As you know while in the Presidency, TR was training with a boxer (not Sullivan) and got a powerful blow to one of his eyes, that eventually blinded him in that eye.

In you books on boxing have you a decent biography on Queensbury? I have read up on the disagreeable Marquis (mostly concerning his relations with his wife and sons - and by extension his destruction of Oscar Wilde - and his being generally disliked as a boor by most of good society in his day. I have wondered why he became so fascinated with pugilism that he actually codified the rules of the modern sport.

Jeff

[GUT]

So Floyd on points.