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  • c.d.
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 6599

    #301
    And finally, one of my most favorite Robert Service poems The Shooting of Dan McGrew

    A bunch of the boys were whooping it up in the Malamute saloon; The kid that handles the music-box was hitting a jag-time tune; Back of the bar, in a solo game, sat Dangerous Dan McGrew, And watching his luck was his light-o'-love, the lady that's known as Lou. Then I got to figgering who he was,…


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    • Ms Diddles
      Chief Inspector
      • Aug 2019
      • 1731

      #302
      Originally posted by c.d. View Post
      Glad to hear it, Ms. Diddles.

      Let me see if I can continue my streak of good recommendations. I really enjoyed this book on the 1897 Klondike Gold Rush. One of my favorite eras. A true story, a page turner and what I would call just a good rip roarin' yarn as they say.

      https://www.amazon.com/Floor-Heaven-...s%2C186&sr=8-1

      c.d.
      Thanks c.d.

      If I'm honest I've never really considered books on the Gold Rush to be my bag.

      It's just not a part of history I've felt compelled to read up on.

      That is likely just because I know nothing about it!

      I might just give it a go to see if it changes my mind though.

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      • Ms Diddles
        Chief Inspector
        • Aug 2019
        • 1731

        #303
        Those are great images!

        I feel like I've seen them before.

        Did we discuss this previously years ago, or am I having a deja vu moment?

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        • Tom_Wescott
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 7001

          #304
          I have to say the new release by Michael Butterfield entitled The Zodiac Killer is probably the most accurate and informative book on the Zodiak murders I've ever read. I highly recommend it.

          Yours truly,

          Tom Wescott

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          • c.d.
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 6599

            #305
            Originally posted by Ms Diddles View Post

            Those are great images!

            I feel like I've seen them before.

            Did we discuss this previously years ago, or am I having a deja vu moment?
            I think your sanity is intact, Ms. Diddles. I probably posted them before.

            Re the first one -- the ascent of the Chilkoot pass took four or five trips and you had to basically schlepp a hundred pounds or so each time. It was said the trail was littered with personal items that the packers discarded to lighten their load.

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            • Abby Normal
              Commissioner
              • Jun 2010
              • 11939

              #306
              cool pics! and great poem. never heard of him before but will check him out.
              Last edited by Abby Normal; 05-22-2025, 08:06 PM.
              "Is all that we see or seem
              but a dream within a dream?"

              -Edgar Allan Poe


              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

              -Frederick G. Abberline

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              • c.d.
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 6599

                #307
                Originally posted by Ms Diddles View Post

                Thanks c.d.

                If I'm honest I've never really considered books on the Gold Rush to be my bag.

                It's just not a part of history I've felt compelled to read up on.

                That is likely just because I know nothing about it!

                I might just give it a go to see if it changes my mind though.
                I am absolutely fascinated with the Yukon Gold Rush. Young men seeking fortune flocked there in droves. They had no idea what awaited them. Just getting to the gold fields took a lot of lives. Fortunes made and lost. Hardships. Prices for basic supplies skyrocketing driven by supply and demand. Towns springing up over night. Saloons and brothels everywhere. It was quite an era and the book I recommended really captures it. I am sure you would enjoy it.

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                • c.d.
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 6599

                  #308
                  A good collection of photos from that era:

                  Explore Authentic Klondike Gold Rush Stock Photos & Images For Your Project Or Campaign. Less Searching, More Finding With Getty Images.


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                  • c.d.
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 6599

                    #309
                    And another famous poem by Robert Service that probably every Boy Scout has heard recited around the camp fire.

                    The Cremation of Sam McGee:

                    There are strange things done in the midnight sun By the men who moil for gold; The Arctic trails have their secret tales That would make your blood run cold; The Northern Lights have seen queer sights, But the queerest they ever did see Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge I cremated Sam…


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                    • Abby Normal
                      Commissioner
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11939

                      #310
                      Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
                      I have to say the new release by Michael Butterfield entitled The Zodiac Killer is probably the most accurate and informative book on the Zodiak murders I've ever read. I highly recommend it.

                      Yours truly,

                      Tom Wescott
                      thanks for the rec Tom, i will check it out. After tje ripper, the zodiac is probably my favorite unsolved case.

                      another great one Is the Monster of Florence, a whacky unbelievable unsolved serial killer case from Italy, in which at one point tje Author was arrested for suspicion in the case. just a crazy tangled web.
                      "Is all that we see or seem
                      but a dream within a dream?"

                      -Edgar Allan Poe


                      "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                      quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                      -Frederick G. Abberline

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                      • c.d.
                        Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 6599

                        #311
                        Yeah, I read Monster of Florence. It was good. The Italian police took incompetence to a new level.

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                        • Tom_Wescott
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 7001

                          #312
                          Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

                          thanks for the rec Tom, i will check it out. After tje ripper, the zodiac is probably my favorite unsolved case.

                          another great one Is the Monster of Florence, a whacky unbelievable unsolved serial killer case from Italy, in which at one point tje Author was arrested for suspicion in the case. just a crazy tangled web.
                          I may have Monster of Florence on Kindle! I need to check. As for Zodiac, I was surprised to learn in the book that Donna Lass' (proposed by Robert Graysmith to be a Zodiac victim) body was found in 1986 but not identified by DNA until 2024. She's no longer supposed to be a Zodiac victim, though it's not clear to me why.

                          Yours truly,

                          Tom Wescott

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                          • Abby Normal
                            Commissioner
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 11939

                            #313
                            Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post

                            I may have Monster of Florence on Kindle! I need to check. As for Zodiac, I was surprised to learn in the book that Donna Lass' (proposed by Robert Graysmith to be a Zodiac victim) body was found in 1986 but not identified by DNA until 2024. She's no longer supposed to be a Zodiac victim, though it's not clear to me why.

                            Yours truly,

                            Tom Wescott
                            thanks tom. Ive read graysmith and always thought the lass murder was iffy for the zodiac. whats not a stretch is the domigas/edwards murder a few years earlier. same mo as the later murders...young lovers together in a secluded spot, bound and as they tried to escape shot and killed. same ammo. police thought probably linked.

                            imho probably zodiacs first or at least early attack.
                            "Is all that we see or seem
                            but a dream within a dream?"

                            -Edgar Allan Poe


                            "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                            quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                            -Frederick G. Abberline

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                            • barnflatwyngarde
                              Inspector
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 1156

                              #314
                              Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
                              I have to say the new release by Michael Butterfield entitled The Zodiac Killer is probably the most accurate and informative book on the Zodiak murders I've ever read. I highly recommend it.

                              Yours truly,

                              Tom Wescott
                              Hi Tom, It has been a major frustration of mine that there is a dearth of good, accurate, non-sensational books on the Zodiac case.
                              The first two books by Mark Hewitt were good, but in his third book of the trilogy he, to my mind, spoils it by going for an unlikely suspect.

                              Anyway, on your recommendation, I have ordered the Butterfield book, it arrives tomorrow.

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                              • barnflatwyngarde
                                Inspector
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 1156

                                #315
                                Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

                                thanks tom. Ive read graysmith and always thought the lass murder was iffy for the zodiac. whats not a stretch is the domigas/edwards murder a few years earlier. same mo as the later murders...young lovers together in a secluded spot, bound and as they tried to escape shot and killed. same ammo. police thought probably linked.

                                imho probably zodiacs first or at least early attack.
                                Hi Abby, the Graysmith book is so riddled with fibs that it is difficult to believe anything he writes.

                                The first two volumes of Mark Hewitt's are pretty good.

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