Book Recommendations

[dougie]

The American Civil War has nothing to be proud of. Just think about that.

Jack the ripper had nothing to be proud of either....but people still read books about him
regards

[plang]

Yes Dougie, we do. The more educated we become, the less chance there is of history repeating itself.

[dougie]

Plang,
Id say that your last comment is questionable......

[plang]

Dougie, some of us still read books, thus the more educated we become, the better chance there is of averting disaster.
The internet cannot be a substitute for books.
I'll bet the last book M. Savage read was something like 'The Cat in the Hat'.

[Mayerling]

Though over the years there has been a deviation in spelling and my family remained around Ireland and the UK. A distant relative of mine was one Michael O'Laughlin. A convicted accomplice of Mr Booth.

I am not as protective of him.

Peter O'Loughlin

Hi Peter,

Michael was captured along with Samuel Arnold because they were part of the conspiracty to kidnap President Lincoln (which Booth held onto until early April 1865, when he switched to homicide). There was, I believe, an attempt to make Michael the would-be assassin of General Grant (who was on a train for Burlington, New Jersey on the night of April 14-15, 1865) with his wife Julia. Most historians dismiss this. Michael was found guilty of conspiracy, and sentenced (with Sam Arnold) to life imprisonment. He died during the yellow fever epidemic of 1867 at Fort Jefferson military prison in Dry Tortugas.
Pity because if he had lived he with Arnold, Dr. Mudd, and Ned Spangler would have been pardoned by Andrew Johnson and released.

Michael knew Booth because they were boyhood pals (as was Sam Arnold).
Arnold, by the way, died in 1906.

Best wishes,

Jeff

[Celesta]

Jeff, Rev, Dougie, et al,

I've been reading The Mysterious Private Thompson: The Double Life of Sarah Emma Edmonds, Civil War Soldier by Laura Leedy Gansler.

May not be of interest to some, but it's an interesting book, thus far. I didn't know there were as many women in the army as there were. The exact number is unknown, but the estimate is between 250-500. There were some who didn't bother to disguise themselves in any way while others pretended to be men. Some wanted to stay with their husbands, others did it for the army salary, others refused to stay home and let the men do all the fighting. Single women weren't allowed.

[c.d.]

I am halfway through "Water for Elephants" by Sara Gruen and enjoying it very much.

It either was or is number one on the New York Times bestseller list and has 1,337 reviews on amazon.com.

c.d.

[dougie]

Dougie, some of us still read books, thus the more educated we become, the better chance there is of averting disaster.
The internet cannot be a substitute for books.
I'll bet the last book M. Savage read was something like 'The Cat in the Hat'.

Goering was an educated man,an articulate man, a refined man, as was goebbels,Hitler, so its said read extensively so the equation....the more books read,the more educated people become =less chance of war, frankly is nonsense.
Indeed the internet can be a substitute for books,depends on what you are searching for...ever heard of project guttenburg?
You dont and couldnt know what the last book michael savage read,any more than I could..so why make such a ridicolous statement?
Whatever else you might think of michael savage,he speaks his mind, which is more than can be said for the politicians you so admire.there is nothing original in what you say,i can have a pretty good stab at what you are gonna say ..three weeks before you say it. thats not being critical of you by the way,its just the way many people are. my advice is dont stand around in one position too long ,some farmer might mistake you for a sheep and make an attempt to shear you

[dougie]

Celesta,
that book you mention sounds interesting,is it in print still?cant find it on amazon uk, maybe on amazon us?
I guess most people have read Henri Charrieres 'Papillon"..puts the film to shame, a classic in every sense of the word.And for students of ww2 of course laurence rees 2 books about the nazis....so much detail, and very well written,makes you feel as though you are there almost.
regards

[Celesta]

Celesta,
that book you mention sounds interesting,is it in print still?cant find it on amazon uk, maybe on amazon us?
I guess most people have read Henri Charrieres 'Papillon"..puts the film to shame, a classic in every sense of the word.And for students of ww2 of course laurence rees 2 books about the nazis....so much detail, and very well written,makes you feel as though you are there almost.
regards

Hi Dougie,

I got the book through a discount bookseller, but that company doesn't ship outside the US. Have you tried Abe? Let me finish this before you try to get it though. To make sure it's worth the expense. I'm still in the early part of the book. I've put off reading Papillon for a long time. I'm also reading With the Old Breed. That book was used by Ken Burns in making The War. As I mentioned elsewhere, it's about the marines in the Pacific during WW2, which included my uncles and my father.

[plang]

dougie, M. Savage does not read books. He is too stupid to even consider it.
He is just another capitalist pig doing what earns him the most income.
Believe me, I know how ignorant he is.
What's frightening is his following, can you say Hitler?

[dougie]

Plang,
Have you seen the number of initials after his name?I doubt whether you have ever listened in ,you have probabley only listened ..or read whats attributed to him.Actually I listen more to his compatriot rusty humphries, only last night (evening over there) and the issues these guys bring up are thought provoking and informative. Lasrt night one of the topics on offer was the israel/palestinian question..now it surprised me how much aid is shipped to Hamas controlled areas by the israelis per year..it was new to me.It was also a bit of surprise realising how many palestinians were for israel and sick of hezbollah and hamas. and while savage slags off the democrats ,he slags off the republicans also,he raises question that many do not want asked.Its no wonder that the station is one of the most popular syndicated shows in america( and gaining ground in europe).....try it uou might be surprised, its good to have an open mind..i mean you can always question the conclusions reached by savage and co....it becomes increasingly difficult to argue againsthis views, with anything more than hackneyed and time worn cliches.
regards

[c.d.]

Hey guys,

I started this thread for book recommendations. You might want to take your political discussions to another thread.

c.d.

[plang]

You doubt whether I have listened in dougie?

This is the wrong thread, please go to the Obama thread dougie!

[dougie]

CD,
Yes you are right in your complaint...apologies ,I mixed this thread up with the "obama" section.
By the way I bought and read the "all for the union" book you reccomended,i found it a better read than "company aytch",though that was very very good too.
For studies of human nature,one could do worse than some of orwells lesser known novels..."the clergymans daughter" was one such work id reccommend ,cant think off hand of the other titles.actually prefferred them to the "classics" .i.e animal farm,1984,down and out etc.
regards