why so quiet

[Monty]

OK Graham,

That's fair enough, thanks for explaining.

And I apologise for my terseness.

Monty

[richardnunweek]

Hi,
I started the thread in response to my interpretation that the posts had quietened somewhat, and it certainly has awoke many feelings , that have been expressed passionately.
Personally I have never been aware of the old school v the rest attitude, and I have been with Casebook a long time, I guess its down to how one perceives .
Speaking for myself I have always addressed my opinion regardless who the receiver may be, and I have not picked my targets so to speak.
I tend to treat everyone with respect, even if that may appear a weakness to some.
But hey that is me.
Regards Richard.

[Chris]

Sadly it has to be admitted that Casebook hasn't been the same since the Priory of Sion secretly took over Ripperology.

[Edward]

I Agree ...

Sometimes posts that I make are ignored. Sometimes, they are bashed. Other times, I receive encouragement, and pleasant responses. That's life.

I've been lurking here for a number of years, and finally joined in early 2009. I still consider myself a newbie as far as knowing the facts of the case. I admire those who command vast knowledge of the facts of the mystery. Having one's posts bashed tends to make one reconsider posting.

The ability to present your thoughts in a proper and thoughtful manner is paramount, tho. (as is the ability to defend your opinions)

There is a line from a television program (here in the USA) that was delivered by an on-camera investigative reporter in regards to a celebrity. It goes, "There aren't many facts in this case, but there is plenty of rumor and innuendo, and that's enough for me." Advancing new (and sometimes unpopular) ideas at least stimulates discussion. "The world is flat" was once a universally held belief. It doesn't mean that the belief was correct. Many new ideas are initially unpopular, but through discussion and presentation of facts (or lack thereof), the new idea will be accepted as truth or discarded as untrue.

I feel that I used to learn a lot about the JtR mystery by visiting this site, but lately many of the discussions are hijacked by long boring personal attacks thinly veiled as "discussion". Pity. I am, however learning things about human nature. Some excellent threads have been ruined for me by the back and forth banter that contributes nothing to these boards. Oh well.

Edward

[Graham]

Sadly it has to be admitted that Casebook hasn't been the same since the Priory of Sion secretly took over Ripperology.
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I am, actually, in Arcadia....

Graham

[Ausgirl]

I think it's very possible to completely skewer somebody's theory without being rude about it. What I like about this forum is that posts -are- expected to be well thought out. And the incredible archiving of information, direct and peripheral, so plenty of material to research.

Internet death threats don't bother me usually (being 10,000 miles from the usual perpetrators) - but the last one I had, on a different forum, threatened rape and beheading. Which was scary enough.. except the blazing trail of internet activity he left behind proved an obsession with the idea of hacking women up, and his actual location as my own home town.

I took to locking my windows at night. I sometimes wish people had to swipe a sanity card before being permitted net access.

[Monty]

There are a lot of false personalities out there.

You know, those that kid on they are friendly supportive people then whizz off nasty vile PMs behind yer back.

I figured I may as well be open about it. I am vile and nasty....just aint no hypocrite.

Monty

[Porky Man]

I agree with you re: the suspensions, which with all due respect to Admin did I think knock a little stuffing out of the Forum. I myself am a suspendee...not that I really contributed much to the JtR threads, but I did enjoy taking part in the A6 discussion. Ah well, there are other things in life I suppose.

Graham

i agree graham.
in between the serious stuff some of the less serious stuff filled the void and kept the spirit of the casebook alive.
admin kills off its own site by suspending or banning posters.
a case in point is soothsayer. a huge loss to the site for those people like me who enjoyed his strange ways.
or maybe knowing his tales hes just serving time in strangeways.
appropriate i mention this today (sep 14) as your villa are plaing his newcastle.

pm

[Phil Carter]

Hi Phil,

Thanks for the explination. In one of my former lives before 1500 I must have used a lot of pre-graphite pencils (though I wonder how I could afford them). Since I have the bad habit of biting down on my pencils while thinking (and - of course - writing) the high lead content on the outside explains some odd personality quirks.

But I still can't figure out how to use "graphite" in a joke.

Hello Jeff,

This must mean you were a "Pre-Graphelite" 15th C scribbler then


Phil

[Admin]

Dear Posters,

We have decided not to intervene on this thread (per the Report Posts we have received) as we believe that everyone deserves to vent once in a while and it's on Pub Talk so it's not taking up Ripper related space. So feel free to bash everyone, including us and our policies. However, Porky Man/Soothsayer, a word of advice, when you are bashing us don't do in such a fashion as to stupidly give yourself away as a sock puppet. 'Cause then we go hunting and we find the other names you've registered too. Tsk. Tsk.

Carry on.

[Tecs]

Hi Tecs and Phil C.

The original line was what Tecs put down, but I also heard the bowdlerized one about horses (not dead horses - I altered it some more). As for graphite - I'm stumped about using that at all. You're right that today pencils use graphite, but they used to use lead.

Jeff

Dear all,

I know it's totally pointless but what else is there to do on a Saturday...

Mayeerling did the original and I then tried to quote it when I did my "whore to culture" bit. But I did it wrong so it didn't quote properly and so may look like I did it all. I would never want to take credit for another man's/woman's work so had to clarify that!

As for Graphite, the confusion comes from the fact that Lead, although a heavy(ish) metal is actually quite weak. Most people would be able to rip a thin piece with their hands. Because of this, you can roll it up into a long, thin piece and this can be used to write with. I have a piece of Lead on my desk here and have just done so to prove again to myself it's true! So, many hundreds, perhaps thousands of years ago, Lead was used as a writing impliment albeit not a very good one. Modern pencils, to the best of my knowledge, have always contained Graphite which, as an allotrope of Carbon has interesting properties. It is bonded together by very strong bonds in one direction but very weak bonds 90 degrees to that. When you write with a piece, layers of the graphite shear off and are left on the page as the pencil mark. Lead by comparison leaves a weak line but can still be seen and is, I suppose, better than nothing.

I just don't know if lead was ever encased in wood in order to make what we would now call a pencil but it is a real possibility I suppose.

As many paints used to contain Lead, it's also possible that the paint on the outside of pencils used to do so meaning that overall, pencils did contain Lead.

And having just read back what I've written I realise I must be a very sad person to devote so much time and space to something totally irrelevant!

But as a Chemistry geek and part time lecturer, I just couldn't let it lie.

Sorry all!

regards,

[Sally]

I think theorising, fun though it is ( ) only takes us so far without new information.

After a while, between the (let's say) "vigourously" pursued suspect theorising; the farcical (yet off-putting) personality clashes; and at the same time the general lack of anything new; a lot of good posters have simply lost interest.

Can't blame 'em, really. I'm sure most people simply want to discuss their interest with other like-minded posters without all the crap.

I'd prefer to look for something new, personally - although I accept that since one has to be committed to persisting in that to have any hope of achievement: and even then the most to be hoped for is likely to be very smal gains, it isn't for everyone.

Still, never mind, since Cross has reappeared in force on the forum in the last couple of days, I doubt things will be quiet for much longer...

Vive les suspects!

[Lechmere]

Sally
This is the Autumn of Lechmere.
For some as we are seeing, that translates to blind Terror!

[Lechmere]

Further to the Admin's post I wonder if it's allowed to speculate who are the grasses and who git grasses?

[Sally]

Sally
This is the Autumn of Lechmere.
For some as we are seeing, that translates to blind Terror!

Terror of Lechmere is kinda* difficult for me to envisage Ed, you know?

Still, doubtless you're right.

Oh No! What will all those (insert suspect name here) advocates do now???


Thank God it's the weekend - at least there'll be plenty of people in the pubs and bars of the world to console them in their desolation.


* much like cudda wudda shudda...