Evangelist Pat Robertson Says Putin Is Fulfilling Biblical Prophecy

[c.d.]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/retired-evangelist-pat-robertson-says-putin-is-fulfilling-biblical-prophecy/ar-AAUrMtF?li=BBnbfcL

c.d.

[Svensson]

He came out of retirement especially for this I hear. He must be seriously excited...

[Simon Wood]

I hope Putin dies a fiery death whilst holding a bible.

[rjpalmer]

He came out of retirement especially for this I hear. He must be seriously excited...

I remember back in December 1999, Robertson preached for weeks that world chaos was on the horizon due to the coming terrors of Y2K, which would upend computer banking, destroy the entire system, cripple the water supply, etc. He encouraged everyone to buy gas generators and cots and stock up on water, etc., for Doomsday was at hand.

When midnight January 1st, 2000 rolled around and nothing happened, Robertson went oddly silent--he never made another peep about it on his t.v. show. It was like all those weeks of handwringing and preaching fire and brimstone had never happened. The whole episode was shoved down the memory hole and never spoken of again.

I'd like to see his 'church' taxed for preaching politics, but we all know that will never happen.

[barnflatwyngarde]

Far too many people with invisible friends who talk to them.

[c.d.]

Pat Robertson is a buffoon but in his defense he is certainly not the first person to let his mouth write a check his ass can't cash.

c.d.

[Iconoclast]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...MtF?li=BBnbfcL

c.d.

Hi c.d.,

Trust you're well.

I won't insult any of our intelligences in listening to this cretin and waste of brain cells, but what I would say - and would say this about all so-called religious 'predictions' - I'll start to get interested in them when they are specific, time-framed, and unequivocal without any hint whatsoever of convenient ambiguity so that events cannot be shoehorned into them by way of 'fulfilment'.

I wonder if he has any of those up his sleeve?

Cheers,

Ike

[rjpalmer]

I won't insult any of our intelligences in listening to this cretin and waste of brain cells, but what I would say - and would say this about all so-called religious 'predictions' - I'll start to get interested in them when they are specific, time-framed, and unequivocal without any hint whatsoever of convenient ambiguity so that events cannot be shoehorned into them by way of 'fulfilment'.

Alas, Ike, this is a rather simplistic and naïve view of human psychology, which might go a long way to explain your belief in a certain relic.

There are many instances where preachers gave very precise and specific predictions without any ambiguity. The faithful flock even gathered on the local hilltop to await the second coming, the UFO landings, etc. The hour and minute were given, even down to the final second.

And what happened when the promised event never happened?

In many instances, the faithful flock was more convinced than ever that the prophecy was legitimate, but that a few human errors had crept in, that the believers themselves had proven unworthy of the revelation, and that it was only a matter of few more numbers being crunched and few more ardent prayers uttered.

An entire book has been written about this phenomenon by Festinger, Riecken, and Schachter. It's called When Prophecies Fail. When prophecies fail, belief actually tends to increase, due to an irrational "cognitive dissonance" between reality and belief.

I think I see the same psychology being played-out with the Maybrick Hoax. The more the obvious errors and absurdities pile up, the more the faithful squeeze the book to their bosom. We see a similar "cognitive dissonance" between objective reality and the faith-based religion of diary belief.

[GUT]

I remember back in December 1999, Robertson preached for weeks that world chaos was on the horizon due to the coming terrors of Y2K, which would upend computer banking, destroy the entire system, cripple the water supply, etc. He encouraged everyone to buy gas generators and cots and stock up on water, etc., for Doomsday was at hand.

When midnight January 1st, 2000 rolled around and nothing happened, Robertson went oddly silent--he never made another peep about it on his t.v. show. It was like all those weeks of handwringing and preaching fire and brimstone had never happened. The whole episode was shoved down the memory hole and never spoken of again.

I'd like to see his 'church' taxed for preaching politics, but we all know that will never happen.

But to be fair lots of people in the computer world were predicting disaster with y2k

[GBinOz]

I recall that just before the turning of the millennium I purchased a large Accounts Book to enter the Receipts and Payments for our newly purchased business. On the front cover was proudly displayed a large sticker proclaiming "Y2K safe". I recall wondering at the time how a purported computer bug was going to contrive to reek havoc on my printed document.

Cheers, George

[Dupin]

But to be fair lots of people in the computer world were predicting disaster with y2k

Weren't they just: a key person being Ed Yourdon (RIP) who predicted planes falling from the skies, economic meltdown etc. It became impossible to counter this argument and keep your job (similar to recent panics).

/ignore the rest if you are not IT/ I was appointed manager of a Y2K project, which had already been staffed with 13 testing staff and a very ebulient test manager. The concept was to find spare computer time, turn the clocks forward and runs all know tests on all known applications. This was to take 18 months. Can you imagine the cost. My first recommendation was to dismantle the test team and hire analysts to examine the data definitions. This was considered for, um, about an hour. After which, bye bye Dupin. A new manager volunteered to run the project as it had been planned. No problems were found. This scenario or similar ran in every IT department west world wide. What a blinking waste. Ed was awfully quiet afterwards but doubtless would have said that because he had hilighted the issue it had been solved. In fact opinion was that IT staff had realised the issue over the preceding five years and fixed any issues well in advance of the panic.
/end of the IT stuff/

Moral of the tale: dont panic Captain Mainwaring. Dont be forced to take the consensus view. However, with social media that latter is becoming impossible, especially as off-message posts are being actively cancelled. RIP freedom of expression, aka due analysis.

HTH Dupin

[String]

I remember discussing the fossil record with my Christian cousin and pointing out the discrepancy between his belief that the earth was some thousands of years old and the millions of years old fossils being found daily all over the world. His answer was the fossils were placed there by the devil to confuse us.

[Dupin]

His answer was the fossils were placed there by the devil to confuse us

And after no pause at all you discarded this suggestion? Most would. Due analysis allows noise like this but if people want to make egregious suggestions they can, as long as it is possible to discard them. And yes there is the possibility of people being misled, but I have faith that most people are actually capable of intelligent thought and do not need fact checkers to censor, although they can put forward opposing facts. BTW maybe your cousin is right, although I doubt it really very strongly .

One problem with social media is that noisy ideas can divert, or even be meant to divert, focus, so the trees hide the forest. An example is flat-earth claims. But remember this, that the Phlogiston theory of combustion was the consensus theory for many years and actively defended by key scientists and with opposing views cancelled. It was of course totally wrong. As it happens I believe, like Eratosthenes, that the earth is indeed round and that his experiment two thousand years ago proves it. But if someone came up with an alternative explanation of that experiment, and NASA photos etc, and it wasn't riddled with red flags I might well consider it (briefly).
Dupin

[Dupin]

I apologise for going off topic. To return to which, the Bible has always predicted wars and rumour of wars. Alas it is a human folly.

That Putin is a war mongering despot, a criminal, or bordering on insanity are all consensus views. I was appalled that he did in fact invade Ukraine rather than using his rattling sabres as a bargaining chip.

However I would just like to point out, without taking his side, that there are parallels with previous history. 1) the Cuban Missile Crisis, rather similar to arming Ukraine on the very border of Russia. Krushchev also said it was merely for defence. Kennedy tried to invade Cuba and threatened nuclear war 2) war for regime change - how about Iraq, or Libya.

But just to balance things, it does appear that Putin is set on re-establishing the USSR as it was, which would directly conflict with NATO which has captured all of those states apart from Ukraine and Belarus. Perhaps the Bible, or at least prayer, is indeed needed here.
Dupin

[Varqm]

Another evangelist said Covid was nature's way of getting rid of weak people, similar to survival of the fittest, and the vaccine was getting in the way. Tired of these morons, excuse me, people. They do not care about people dying needlessly.