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  • Ms Diddles
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    Hahaha! I just realised that "bullshit" becomes as "Bellshill" on my predictive text.

    I thought Barnflatwyngarde might enjoy that!!!

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  • Ms Diddles
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    I skim-read Herlocks post before actually opening the link and thought he was defending some episode of The Avengers where Joanne Lumley had "Chinesed up" to, I dunno, infiltrate some opium smuggling gang or whatever!!

    I was about to clamber on my woke high horse as per.

    Dr No was on telly last weekend, and I was curling my toes at some of the Chinese characters played by obviously white actors, and who can forget Micky Rooney's chinese neighbour in Breakfast at Tiffany's?

    Admittedly they were different times, but looking at it now is pretty excruciating.

    Then I opened the link.

    This is much more subtle and yeah, my instinct is to agree that this is bullshit.

    I'm pleased that the writers haven't followed the traditional route of issuing a grovelling apology.

    I have always really liked Mark Gatiss. He's super smart and may well have an interesting and considered riposte.

    I'm going out on the lash this afternoon with my lovely, crazy, Iraqi pal.

    I'm going to ask her how she'd feel about playing a kind of equivalent Arab role.

    She will likely look at me quizzically, light her cigarette and say " I wouldn't give a f#@k, daaahhling. Now, what are we drinking?? "

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  • mpriestnall
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    Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
    https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/...215242466.html

    The use of Chinese music…. ff’s sake. This was about a museum containing ancient Chinese artefacts and with scenes in Chinatown. Perhaps they should have played Led Zeppelin or a bit of Louis Armstrong? It surely would have addd to the atmosphere when she was carefully warming the teapot to hear the strains of “well Hello Dolly….”
    I was going to suggest "Tea for Two" but realized that might have sounded too Chinese.
    Last edited by mpriestnall; 08-14-2021, 08:43 AM.

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  • erobitha
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    The episode was also a nod to the Victorian Chinese opium industry which was prevalent back then. If she is meant to be playing a Chinese character, and she is actually Chinese, it would make sense she spoke in a Chinese accent. Nothing to see here.

    If the woke really want to get angsty about historical TV shows as being racist tropes, perhaps they should venture back to the 1970s with 'Love Thy Neighbour' and 'Mind Your Language'. They would have a field day with those. Sherlock is much ado about nothing.

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  • Enigma
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    Never fear, they will soon forget about this and be as equally outraged tomorrow about something else.

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  • Herlock Sholmes
    started a topic More Nonsense.

    More Nonsense.

    https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/...215242466.html

    Is there absolutely nothing that people won’t find a reason to make a PC complaint about. All this waffle about ‘tropes.’

    She was playing a Chinese person so they object to her using a Chinese accent. As far as I can recall, and I haven’t seen the episode for a while, the character hadn’t been born in England and I don’t think that she’d been in the country that long. So surprise, surprise she didn’t sound like Joanna Lumley.

    They objected to her wearing traditional clothing. Why? This wasn’t in any way a caricature. She was actually demonstrating a traditional and ancient Chinese Tea Ceremony in a museum. How could this be an issue. Does this mean that no Chinese actress can ever wear traditional Chinese clothes. Can no actress from an Indian background wear a sari?

    They make an issue of there being a ‘damsel in distress.’ What about their version of The Hound were the person in distress was a man?

    The use of Chinese music…. ff’s sake. This was about a museum containing ancient Chinese artefacts and with scenes in Chinatown. Perhaps they should have played Led Zeppelin or a bit of Louis Armstrong? It surely would have addd to the atmosphere when she was carefully warming the teapot to hear the strains of “well Hello Dolly….”

    The episode was about the Tongs and smuggling. This really happens. It was in no way hinting or suggesting that all Chinese are baddies.

    And one Twitter, halo-wearing dimwit said “why are asians always victims?” Are they? Evidence?

    And the sad thing is that I’m just surprised that Gattiss and Moffat haven’t done what many have done by issuing a nauseating, self-serving, masochistic, whining apology.

    Tell these people to f**k off and find something constructive to do instead of wasting everyone else’s oxygen.


    Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; 08-13-2021, 08:27 PM.
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