Connecticut School Shooting

[Limehouse]

Do you keep a semi automatic gun under your pillow, Limehouse?

No, of course not. What are you trying to say?

What I was trying to say was that someone determined enough to carry out an act like this will obtain a gun and do it. I am thinking of the spree in Norway.

Having said that, it does seem that this young man may have used his mother's gun, which was easily available to him. That is alarming, but I nevertheless feel that this event might still have happened if he had to hunt a little harder for a gun.

[Robert]

We don't know precisely what happened. He may have had a row with his mother, lost his temper and shot her. After which, thinklng that he'd already crossed the line and there was no way back, he went berserk. On the other hand, the shooting of his mother and the shootings at the school may all have been planned.

The point I'd like to emphasise is that he didn't care if he died. It's a bit hard to stop someone acting like this if that's how they feel. It's like framing a law to make suicide illegal. It isn't going to stop people doing it.

[Stephen Thomas]

We don't know precisely what happened. He may have had a row with his mother, lost his temper and shot her.

As one does.

[Robert]

Well, obviously he was a nutter. But the school shootings might not have taken place if he hadn't shot his mother. On the other hand, the whole thing may have been pre-planned. We don't yet know.

[j.r-ahde]

Hello you all!

I had a discussion with my friends. Their point was;

The balance or the lack of balance comes from home.

Probably something was cracking at home...

All the best
Jukka

[ChainzCooper]

Extending the right to 'keep and bear arms' to the psychotic and the deranged is a triumph of stubborn idiocy over common sense.

Regards, Bridewell.

How do you know exactly that someone is going to do this beforehand? Get out a crystal ball and figure it out? There is no correlation between stringent gun laws and gun violence, Washington DC has some of the highest percentage of violent crime and have the strictest gun laws whereas towns like Kennesaw Georgia dwellings are required to keep a firearm and its probably the safest town in America. I think some people need to pump their brakes and stop playing monday morning quarterback when things like this happen. Some people are just evil and will stop at nothing laws or not to do what they want to
Jordan

[Errata]

How do you know exactly that someone is going to do this beforehand? Get out a crystal ball and figure it out? There is no correlation between stringent gun laws and gun violence, Washington DC has some of the highest percentage of violent crime and have the strictest gun laws whereas towns like Kennesaw Georgia dwellings are required to keep a firearm and its probably the safest town in America. I think some people need to pump their brakes and stop playing monday morning quarterback when things like this happen. Some people are just evil and will stop at nothing laws or not to do what they want to
Jordan

I think you would be amazed at how few of these people are evil, but are instead profoundly damaged human beings who have been abused or failed by every member of this "me first" culture.

[ChainzCooper]

I think you would be amazed at how few of these people are evil, but are instead profoundly damaged human beings who have been abused or failed by every member of this "me first" culture.

The person that did this (don't know the name whaleshit comes to mind) was an evil person hes not the victim here the people he gunned down are. Its not society or culture or guns fault its his fault
Jordan

[j.r-ahde]

Hello ChainzCooper!

I've just read a blog called "I am Adam Lanza's mother", which gives a pretty gruesome picture of the real reasons behind these incidents in your country.

Here in Finland, where we have more strict gunlaws, still some people buy guns for their protection. I have never heard, that these people would have helped themselves with it. Instead, they have caused a mess getting freaky and shooting innocent people coming for plumbing etc.

All the best
Jukka

[Limehouse]

How do you know exactly that someone is going to do this beforehand? Get out a crystal ball and figure it out? There is no correlation between stringent gun laws and gun violence, Washington DC has some of the highest percentage of violent crime and have the strictest gun laws whereas towns like Kennesaw Georgia dwellings are required to keep a firearm and its probably the safest town in America. I think some people need to pump their brakes and stop playing monday morning quarterback when things like this happen. Some people are just evil and will stop at nothing laws or not to do what they want to
Jordan

There is no correlation between stringent gun laws and gun violence

And yet, in the USA, gun crime is much, much higher than in countries where possession of a gun is illegal.

[Robert]

There might be a cultural factor at play in the US. As the country expanded westward, law and order lagged behind, with the result that people wore guns to protect themselves. At least, they did in all the old westerns. The country even devised a form of duel, not along the lines of the aristocratic duels of England which seem to have put a premium on accuracy, but instead a form which put a premium on speed.

[Hunter]

That's mostly Hollywood, Robert. If you look at the photos of dead outlaws from the "old west" most of them are peppered with buckshot or shot in the back of the head. There's little time for honor when exacting justice, or revenge... or simply defending oneself
.

If you want to look for the origin of the second amendment, all you have to do is look at why the British troops were marching on Lexington and Concord, and what happened as a result.

[Robert]

You've spoilt it now, Hunter.

Yours

Matt Dillon

[j.r-ahde]

Hello you all!

Just read an interesting piece of news; in 2008 there were 12 000 dead in the US because of guns. Meanwhile in Japan there were only 11 deaths because of guns; their laws only allow guns for hunting and sports.

Could you, please, think about this, dear American friends. Before you start to talk again about your second amendment and defend your bullet-headed countrymen.

All the best
Jukka

[ChainzCooper]

There is no correlation between stringent gun laws and gun violence

And yet, in the USA, gun crime is much, much higher than in countries where possession of a gun is illegal.

I'll post this one more time. Gun crime and violence is HIGHER in places like Washington DC where they have stringent gun laws. Kennesaw Georgia is the probably the safest town in the US and has one of the lowest burglary rates because every dwelling is REQUIRED to have a firearm. Again, I'm really tired of the hysteria and acting like gun crimes and crime in general is just an American thing. The same day same a-hole went into a school in China where guns are outlawed and knifed a bunch of children did this get any news? No because the media wants to hatchet up the anti-gun nonsense, do you ever hear stories about citizens saving themselves from attackers because they carried a gun? No because thats not going to fit this BS narrative. Its time for some personal responsibility and accountability, its the d-bags fault and not guns or America or whatever else I'm sick of people taking one thing and calling it something else its really disgusting and needs to stop
Jordan