Jack the ripper , the truth , from the spirit world .

[Elamarna]

Henry Gawen Sutton.

Dave , far more likely than PAV, and at least you have done the research to make the claim.


Steve

[Elamarna]

This is where people like you , fail . You can't dictate terms to the spiritualist .

Here's why

the spiritualist works for God all mediums work for God and God is therefore in charge and not scientists

secondly science is not an authority in this world nor is the government god is so proof is given within the church and there are millions of spiritualist all around the world who are able to communicate with the spirit world see and hear spirits talk to them and also receive messages from the spirit world which can be validated

the last message I got from a spiritualist said the words who is Stephen with the big dog I said that's my brother he has a great dane ok well spirits are telling me he has something wrong with the wheel on his car I went home and found my brother asked him if he had a problem with the car because I believe the message and he said yes he had a flat tire as he got home my brother has a Great Dane

Completely off topic, nothing to do with the subject of the Whitechapel murders

[Elamarna]

Once again what evidence do you have that aberline was even a mason let alone after the Ripper killings don't you find it a bit coincidental that he was discovered to be a mason after the Ripper killings perhaps it was recorded to protect him that he was a mason after the Ripper killings in case anyone found out that the Masons killed the five victims open your eyes


you would never make a police detective you are too quick to close doors and poo poo evidence without concrete evidence

But you do not even grasp what is evidence.
Feelings are not evidence.

[Spider]

[Harry D]

I believe in the divine and that people can undergo spiritual experiences. Only the most hard-nosed materialist would deny the possibility of paranormal forces. However, the problem is separating the wheat from the chaff. Some people cannot handle these experiences and their minds snap. Some people are legitimately schizophrenic, and others are pure charlatans.

[Pegasus]

Pegasus, I take it you do realise that the two senior officers and Abberline, were in a completely separate police force to Harvey and Watkins.?

This nonsense really must stop.

Please think about what you are saying , so people from two different police forces could not possibly know each other or be part of the same masonic Lodge .

O.m.g no wonder no one but me has solved the case thinking like that

has nobody in the London police force ever made friends with other police officers from other forces think about it

[Pegasus]

But you do not even grasp what is evidence.
Feelings are not evidence.

The police often referred to their intuition which are Feelings they know to trusted over many years intuition is the voice of God Clarifying truth to us where our five senses cannot clarify once you know that intuition feelings come from God and the angels you learn to trust them

[Pegasus]

I believe in the divine and that people can undergo spiritual experiences. Only the most hard-nosed materialist would deny the possibility of paranormal forces. However, the problem is separating the wheat from the chaff. Some people cannot handle these experiences and their minds snap. Some people are legitimately schizophrenic, and others are pure charlatans.

You are right they are Charlatans out there however to solve that we have to listen to her intuition I do not give off anything that I get intuitive Lee or spiritually and less I know it is fact I have to believe it before I can give it off I don't give false information to people

[Abby Normal]

I believe in the divine and that people can undergo spiritual experiences. Only the most hard-nosed materialist would deny the possibility of paranormal forces. However, the problem is separating the wheat from the chaff. Some people cannot handle these experiences and their minds snap. Some people are legitimately schizophrenic, and others are pure charlatans.

I pretty much agree with all of this-same as UFOs. Its a very old, very big universe. perhaps a multiverse. who knows where how far it goes on and the extent of its mysteries. I keep an open mind and am pretty sure that there is advanced intelligent life other than ours and I lean pretty heavily toward an afterlife-a "spiritual" realm if you will. and not just on blind faith either. there is evidence for both, one being eye witness testimony from credible sources.

but yes one must separate the wheat from the chaff, and unfortunately IMHO 99% of it is chaff. As is this threads premis and that sadly just makes it harder to see the remaining (possible) truth to the rest.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Spiritualism has been proven time and time again you don't even go to spiritualist churches there are thousands all over this country and many more all around the world where people get proof and validation there are even ex police officers who talk to spirits and work in spiritualist churches and have helped solve crimes go and do your research do not get guestimate

when mediums work they work in a more relaxed environment in a church then they do under what you call laboratory conditions being scrutinized by scientists so they're not going to be relaxed it is for you to go into the spiritualist world

No, they work in environments where they have control and where they have an audience of bereaved people who desperately miss deceased family members who are desperate to believe. This is why spiritualism took off after WW1.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Once again what evidence do you have that aberline was even a mason let alone after the Ripper killings don't you find it a bit coincidental that he was discovered to be a mason after the Ripper killings perhaps it was recorded to protect him that he was a mason after the Ripper killings in case anyone found out that the Masons killed the five victims open your eyes


you would never make a police detective you are too quick to close doors and poo poo evidence without concrete evidence

What do you mean by this ?

Once again what evidence do you have that aberline was even a mason

Because someone took the time to do actual research. He was initiated as a Mason at the same time as Littlechild and it was in 1889. This is proven.

And so you then resort to the usual conspiracy theorist nonsense that perhaps it was a plot. If it was then why did he join the same lodge and at the same time as Littlechild....unless you want to move the goalposts again? I’m waiting for....oh...wait....Stephen Knight has just told me that Littlechild was involved too.

Alleged psychic phenomena is not evidence.

Why don't psychics just solve every unsolved crime?

Why do believers only prove themselves to other believers?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Sorry but you are an egotist , who thinks he is right what ever he says with little factual evidence

We like evidence and you have none , paper work is not evidence .
You are so quick to shut others down yet you can't find the killer
you know so much yet know so little

This coming from a man who has just invented a police officer that didn’t exists.

Answer the question. Who is Evelyn?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Some of the best nit pickers of all time yet none of them have solved the case no have you no has anybody else how can people always be so right to be so wrong and not any of you have ever found the Killer

We don’t know who Jack the Ripper but we can say this with honesty. You are simply making this up. You have never had a psychic vision in your life because they don’t exist. Prove it with evidence. In controlled conditions. Under impartial scrutiny. Do spiritualist ever do this? Of course they don’t. Liars and charlatans every single one of them. Despicable rip-off merchants. Heartless, thoughtless con artists.

[Herlock Sholmes]

the spiritualist works for God all mediums work for God and God is therefore in charge and not scientists

Spiritualists work for themselves. Perpetuating frauds.

[Herlock Sholmes]

We like evidence and you have none , paper work is not evidence .

Speak to a Police Officer, a Barrister or a Judge as I think you’ll find that it is evidence. That’s why such evidence is presented in court. This is why you never hear a Barrister say:

“Your Honour, i’d like to call The Duke Of Wellington as my next witness.”

or

“Ladies and Gentleman Of the jury the case against my client is admittedly overwhelming but my Aunty Ethel look into the tea leaves this morning and has told me for a fact that he’s innocent.”