The Folk Music Thread

[Cogidubnus]

Remember the Brighton Taverners?

I saw June Tabor twice at the Springfield, in the late '70s. Maybe we went to the same gigs ?

Hi RR

Could well be! (though I'm still not sure the second I went to wasn't at the Stanford - I spent a lot of time there - if you didn't like the act you could always wander into the lounge and keep the tropical fish company...or dive across the Circus into the Hare and Hounds...they did a vicious Barley Wine there I seem to recall (though I once disgraced myself there on Tequilla Sunrise!)...

Blimey...I've just remembered the old Brighton Taverners I heard at the Stanford and also at some pub out Poets Corner way in Hove - A co-worker I had at a local charity I worked for, introduced me to them circa 73/74...I had an EP they issued...wonder where it's gone? Seem to recall it had a very good cover of Red Red Wine on it, plus a rather haunting track about the Aberfan disaster...gosh happy days...

All the best

Dave

[Cogidubnus]

Ruby

As a matter of interest how do you feel about a non-trad, but hugely entertaining, group like Bellowhead?

All the best

Dave

[Rubyretro]

cover of Red Red Wine on it

I love that song -but of course I remember the UB40 version of 'it best..(not folk -but I also loved reggae -did you ever go to the Art School 'Basement' reggae club , Dave, or The Concord ?

http://youtu.be/YpWluQXKTZk I just love this video so much -so many details, and I love the 'red' wine in the black and white film, and Ally Campell
manages to be so touching..

The Aberfan disaster -

this has to be Leon Rosselson's song 'Palaces of Gold'.
I much prefer Martin Carthy's version, but couldn't find it on youtube..this is Leon Rosselson (I hate the immflamatory images from this poster-a more subtle truth would have worked better. But it was a song that influenced me. I remember very well my parents talking about this disaster, and I have read the newspapers of the time :

http://youtu.be/YpWluQXKTZk

My sister recently worked as a trainee teacher in a primary school at the top of a tower block on a slum estate ( with cynical and depressive colleagues and every kid a social problem) with chicken wire over the windows; Plus ça change, eh ?..

[Limehouse]

Thanks for those links Ruby. Aberfan stands out in my memory so clearly, even though I was only 8 or 9 at the time. I remember my mum, with the newspaper spread out across the back of our sofa, weeping openly (she NEVER usually showed her emotions)

Interesting how themes like social justice and equality are so often explored in this type of music.

[Limehouse]

I first heard this song when I was a toddler, aged three or four - probably on Housewives' Choice or Music While You Work. From the very first time I heard it, to this very day, it stirs something in me deeply and spiritually. I am going to have it played at my funeral - as they carry me into the church - but it HAS to be by The Highwaymen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQqx0Zj8ybs

[Rubyretro]

Interesting how themes like social justice and equality are so often explored in this type of music.

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True , Limehouse, this is one of the reasons that this is one of my most favourite songs to sing -Four Loom Weaver you can understand where luddites were coming from, pointless as their fight was. http://youtu.be/DakcxsncHfs. (It's tragic to me to see just how Maddy and June have lost their bottle -I sing a more festier and bitter version, alone to my shower taps ).

[Rubyretro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQqx0Zj8ybs[/QUOTE]

I'm deeply sorry Limehouse -but unless this song were referring to The Good Michael -I think that I'm far too bad for it..

[Cogidubnus]

Brighton Taverners

Hi Ruby

I've dug out that old EP...unbelievably I still have it, complete with slightly tatty outer sleeve, and it's in fine playable condition...Brighton Taverners Souvenir Edition...

The tracks are:-

Streets of London (Ralph McTell)

Red Wine (written by John Hughes, a disabled Canadian vet then living in Eastbourne)

Grey October - this is the Aberfan number - written by Ewan McColl and Peggy Seeger...

Gone Away Love - Another John Hughes number - seem to recall it was a great favourite at Taverners gigs...

Had to smile at the cover - Order from blah blah blah, 80p inc postage all countries - those were the days!

Dave

[Rubyretro]

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Hi Ruby

I've dug out that old EP...unbelievably I still have it, complete with slightly tatty outer sleeve, and it's in fine playable condition...Brighton Taverners Souvenir Edition...

The tracks are:-

Streets of London (Ralph McTell)

Red Wine (written by John Hughes, a disabled Canadian vet then living in Eastbourne)

Grey October - this is the Aberfan number - written by Ewan McColl and Peggy Seeger...

Gone Away Love - Another John Hughes number - seem to recall it was a great favourite at Taverners gigs...

Had to smile at the cover - Order from blah blah blah, 80p inc postage all countries - those were the days!

Dave

I've got 'Streets of London' on vinyl.

I've got a '45 of a Brighton band called 'Birds With Ears' -absolutely brilliant track 'Mr Sneed' and 'Mush mush little doggy' on the b side.

http://youtu.be/ezPvRKdEjhg I can't believe it ! there is a version on youtube ! Not half as good as the disc -poor Ian looks a complete twit (I did know him very slightly and he was quite clever and sexy in real life. He should have fired that '80s stylist). But his lyrics were fab ("aromas of a bygone age belly-crawl-through-the -brambles")

[Cogidubnus]

Never saw "Birds with Ears" Ruby...possibly because I left Brighton in '85...they don't look my kind of thing to be honest!

All the best

Dave

[Rubyretro]

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Never saw "Birds with Ears" Ruby...possibly because I left Brighton in '85...they don't look my kind of thing to be honest!

All the best

Dave

I too left Brighton in 1985.

[Archaic]

Newport Folk Festival- this weekend

Newport Folk Festival preview, coverage of the festival this weekend, and more on the Woody Guthrie centennial on National Public Radio:

http://www.npr.org/2012/07/24/157256696/newport-folk-festival-preview-wilco-my-morning-jacket-tune-yards-more?sc=nl&cc=asc-20120725

Enjoy!
Archaic

[Limehouse]

Love this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eOIU9ekSMk

and, being a teenager in the 1970s, I loved Thin Lizzy's version too.

[Limehouse]

Another Ewan McColl song, but recorded by peter, Paul and Mary. So beautiful, so very beautiful.

However, he was wrong about McColl being from Scotland - he was born in Manchester but had Scottish roots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFJxM3m-lY

[Limehouse]

And here is Peggy Seeger's version sung in the way that McColl intended it to be. This version grows on me - it's closer to the 'purist' folk singing style (whatever that really is) but I love PP&M's version more, I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXYPb0rrwbA