News Flash!! . . . VINCENT VAN GOGH WAS JACK THE RIPPER!!

[Limehouse]

All this bollocks makes James Maybrick sound like the one-hundred percent, absolutely no bullshit, total real deal, without a single doubt, can't be argued against, definitely-did-it-the-bastard, copper-bottomed, gold-plated, set in stone Jack The Ripper. Only he didn't do it. And neither did Vince.

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That was a no-bollocks, gold-plated, utterly kosher response and I love it!!

[Vincent alias Jack]

The First Double Event

Sept. 8, 1888—Ripperologists know this as the date of Annie Chapman’s murder, but the evidence shows it was also likely the date of the Whitehall Torso murder. The victim’s arm was discovered on the shore of the Thames at Pimlico on Sept. 11, and it was Dr. Thomas Neville’s opinion that it had been in the water two or three days.

The Daily News started to put it together, noting that “the date of the murder would be somewhere about the 8th of September.” However, they didn’t take the next step and relate it to the Chapman murder.

The reality, Vincent van Gogh killed two in one night on Sept. 8. He killed the Whitehall Torso victim first, acting as the Torso Killer, and then he killed Chapman, acting as Jack the Ripper, cutting it close to sunrise.

Two different victims, two different MO’s, and two different motives, but one murderer. Vincent killed Chapman to continue the escalation of his Ripper murders, but he killed the Whitehall Torso victim to satisfy his need to murder again for his mother’s Sept. 10 birthday, and also to reconnect back to his first murder that he committed long before on Sept. 5, 1873, when he had lived in London.

Vincent van Gogh was a serial killer who became Jack the Ripper.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

[Vincent alias Jack]

Pinchin Street Torso

Sept. 10, 1889—The Pinchin Street torso victim was discovered under a railway arch that morning. She was face down, and her head and legs were missing, and she had a gash to her stomach. This is generally not thought of as a Jack the Ripper murder, but I present that it was, at least partially.

Van Gogh was both Jack the Ripper and the Torso Killer. It was important that this be a torso kill, though, so it mainly fits that MO—the head and legs missing. However, because Vincent was both killers in one, and because this was to be his last murder, he wanted it to also relate in some way to his Ripper murders. So he added a quick gash to her stomach. But also, the main point, he deposited a torso kill in Jack the Ripper’s killing field in Whitechapel. This was not the place for depositing torso kills. Their pieces where always thrown in the Thames and placed elsewhere.

The importance for Vincent to make it a torso kill was because he needed to kill for his mother’s birthday again and to match his last kill to his first. His first was on Sept. 5, 1873, while he lived in London. Then on Sept. 8, 1888, he had killed Chapman and the Whitehall torso victim. He would have loved to have matched the Pinchin Street kill to one of those dates, but because it was his last murder, the important date for him was to place his victim, his gift, so that it was discovered on his mother’s 70th birthday, Sept. 10.

Vincent van Gogh was both Jack the Ripper and the Torso Killer.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

[El White Chap]

Fox News break that exclusive story mate?

[Mayerling]

No problem Phil

Since it appears that I misunderstood the tone of your post, I sincerely apologise for referring to you as a tosser and a conceited prat

My opinion of the extremely debauched Nero hasn't changed one iota though

Nothing personal Phil - anyone who talks to me in a derisory fashion should expect some choice words in response - that's all

Regards

Nemo

Hi Nemo and Phil,

I don't know if you can find it (and it is a trifle out-of-date) but read "Nero: Reality and Legend" by B. H. Warmington (New York: W. W. Norton & Co., 1969; "Ancient Culture and Society Series" ed. M.I. Finley) for a balanced view of Nero's good and bad points and a look at the source material.

And when will they find one of my favorite lost book titles: Suetonius' "Lives of the Courtesans"?

Jeff

[Mayerling]

Publication Query?

Did Dale Larner finally publish his book on last April 27th? I was looking his name up and one blog suggested that date as the publication date.

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

A slight reprise.

Debauchery is a bad thing? I still say, give me your book on Van Gough, and if is worth 25 cents, I shall happily pay full-price for it. I am not a muppet like others. My word is a mountain of power. See yall in approximately a month.

[Digalittledeeperwatson]

And thank you Mayerling!

I just remembered I acquired a book upon 'THE TRIALS OF ISRAEL LIPKSI'. Help much appreciated. Is said tome accurate? Much appreciation in advance. Context, if remotely accurate, is awesome. Also, I paid all of $2 American for it. And if that isn't enough, THERE WAS A SERIAL KILLER WITH THE SOBRIQUET, JACK THE RIPPER!!!! AS REAL AS JESUS OR BUDDHA!!! See you all in approximately a month's time, if not more. Hope I used sobriquet correctly. I enjoy French thoroughly, yet am significantly, not well-versed in it. Geez, what do you want from me??????????

[Limehouse]

I've tried to be positive and respectful concerning this theory but as I still feel lousy after a full-on chest virus I feel justified in expressing the view that it is grade one hogwash.

[Vincent alias Jack]

Did Dale Larner finally publish his book on last April 27th? I was looking his name up and one blog suggested that date as the publication date.

No, not published yet. Still pushing to make it happen. Understandably, the premise is difficult for some in publishing to believe, and many don't get over the first hurdle. But for those that can jump, they will get the shock of their lives. The evidence against Van Gogh is overwhelming. Can't wait to get it out to the world so all this can be settled once and for all.

Thanks for asking,
Dale Larner

[Vincent alias Jack]

Synopsis

Here's a quick summary of Van Gogh's murders. He was both Jack the Ripper and the Torso Killer. By the time 1888 rolled around, he was a mature serial killer.

http://www.academia.edu/4462524/Vinc...ENT_ALIAS_JACK

Thanks,
Dale Larner

[Mayerling]

Dale, if you don't mind the question, have you ever written and published anything prior to this book on Van Gogh?

[YankeeSergeant]

I really hope

Mr Dale Larner,

Are you serious about the case of Jack the Ripper? Or are you just trying to cash in on a generalized book to grab public attention as an author?

You cannot possibly claim ' Solid Evidence ' it's not even classified as 'circumstantial evidence ' i believe it's called btw, by reading just about anything in paintings, which show nothing towards any evidence whatsoever of being a serial killer. Also, relating Vincent's letters to his brother Theo, with that of hoax letters supposedly from Jack the Ripper, is most certainly barking up the wrong tree concerning ' Evidence ' towards a serial killer. Many believe, as well as the Police in 1888 and some policemen of today that most, if not all, of the Ripper letter's are not from JTR, but from cranks and enterprising journalists of the time. I too could see, for myself, a so called Ripper letter, in which the handwriting was that of the Journalist ' Thomas Bulling '. You have not one shred of evidence to support this theory that Vincent Van Gogh was Jack the Ripper. Yet you claim you have! Indeed this is a false claim, i will not be regarding you as a respected author.

I really hope Mr. Larner is publishing this as fiction. Not having read the book, I will not comment on his research techniques but as has been speculated and most likely true, most if not all the Jack the Ripper letters were hoaxes I speculated in my novel "Dusty Bluebells" that a newspaper man wrote the letters. How ironic for me when the news came that they believe now a newspaper man at the Central News Agency wrote the letters. Mr. Larner, I will look for your book and read it with an open mind as to the quality of the story, but I believe, based on my years of research that you are out on a limb here. Vincent van Gogh the Ripper? I think not. Regards, Neil

[Abraham Lincoln]

Vincent van Gogh was both Jack the Ripper and the Torso Killer.

Thanks,
Dale Larner

Not forgetting your earlier claim that he was a serial killer before coming Jack the Ripper.

How on earth did he ever find time to paint those beautiful paintings ?

Is that an image of Paul Gauguin I can detect hidden amongst the freckles of my left arm I wonder ?

Tell me which asylum you're writing from Mr Larner and I might pay you a visit.

[Vincent alias Jack]

Van Gogh Killed Elizabeth Jackson



Van Gogh was both Jack the Ripper and the Torso Killer. He made his first two Torso kills while living in London in 1873 & 74. After more Torso kills and the Ripper murders of 1888, he then traveled back to London in June 1889 to kill Elizabeth Jackson. He tried to match this murder to the 1874 murder—he only missed it by a day.

Here’s a timeline showing how Vincent obtained freedom from his asylum just in time to kill Jackson. The few days he was away matches to the murder.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/dalelarner/a...the-rippe-ascd

Thanks,
Dale Larner