News Flash!! . . . VINCENT VAN GOGH WAS JACK THE RIPPER!!

[The Good Michael]

Mr. Larner seems reasonable and intelligent to me. That leaves the only explanation for his behavior as an act that is being performed in order to sell his work. He cannot possibly believe it as the painting alone is something to be laughed at. He is out to make a buck and then will go back into obscurity. The more books we buy in a rapid manner, the sooner this might happen. It isn't a joke so much as it is a scheme, and is far less harmful than many get-rich schemes peddled on television, or weight-loss programs that kill you. I say, "Good on 'im." Too bad I can't get that book in Kazakhstan... or any really.

Mike

[Simon Wood]

Hi All,

"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

Regards,

Simon

[John Wheat]

To Michael
How bad Dale's 'Get Rich Scheme' is surely depends on what he's trading on. I think when you're dealing with what is essentially a set of horrific murders if you're out to make money on what you know yourself is a load of cobblers then in my opinion you're an *******.

[The Good Michael]

To Michael
How bad Dale's 'Get Rich Scheme' is surely depends on what he's trading on. I think when you're dealing with what is essentially a set of horrific murders if you're out to make money on what you know yourself is a load of cobblers then in my opinion you're an *******.

I don't know John. When something is a long time ago, it loses its horribleness, it seems.

Mike

[John Wheat]

To Mike
I note your point but I just think people out to make a fast buck give other ripperogists a bad name and then you get accusations of 'murder porn' etc.

[Vincent alias Jack]

But the challenge to Dull Learner remains, as Bridewell has succinctly stated:



If he has it, let's see it. Absent such evidence, Mr Larner should do the decent thing and withdraw his idiotic case. I'm sick and tired of such serious accusations being made, on the basis of such pathetic 'evidence', against real people who are no longer here to defend themselves.

It's not only intellectually bankrupt, it's morally and ethically disgusting. You wouldn't dare slander the living in such a serious manner, Mr Larner, especially on the basis of such deluded and risible evidence - they would sue you for every cent you had, and rightly so.

My goodness, Mr. Flower. In your last few posts you’ve touched on everything but my personal looks. I was expecting something about my baldness at any moment. Perhaps the next post. But I won’t mind. I’ve grown used to the lack of hair.

In your previous post you noted my breathless sarcasm. Being a wordsmith, I have to say I loved that one. As for stating my work is a joke and garbage, I can only say I didn't love those words as much. And as for the discoveries being delusional, my psychiatrist tried to tell me about those images I was seeing in the painting. He said, as he stroked his beard, “They are simply manifestations of your imagination, triggered by a strong subconscious desire to unscramble what the murderer did to Mary Kelly’s face, so as to see what she looked like.” I told him I disagreed.

As you can see, my inane sarcasm continues.

Your other post then revealed the bee that was in your bonnet, when you noted that I accused you of faulty logic and of attacking Nietzsche in an authoritative tone. Although I was continuing to implement my sarcastic nature, I made a good point. But you must understand that the sarcasm is meant as fun and playful, not as cutting and mean. Unfortunately, you took what I said as cutting and mean, and for that, being truly a man of honor and humility, I apologize.

So, even though you’ve said some harsh things about my writing and painting skills and such, I will treat them only as heated reactions to an unintended slight, and I have no difficulty in burning the memory of these and letting the ashes drift quietly out from my mind.

And now back to the sarcasm (but only for fun, please). In regards to your latest post, I have no intention of withdrawing my case, no matter how idiotic it may seem, and if my dear suspect were alive and kicking today, I would push forward just as unabashedly. And if he were alive, then can the witnesses also be alive, and then a photo of VG could be shown to Cox and others, and then, “Oh, my, put some cuffs on that man right away.”

Sarcastically, but in fun, and sincerely yours,
Dale Larner

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[Vincent alias Jack]

I hope someone makes a movie off Dale's book and he becomes a millionaire. I could totally see Tim Burton making this movie.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Now that’s the right idea, Tom. I like your view of things. Like any good writer, I do see the book being made into a movie, and I love your suggestion of Tim Burton, but only if he can do the movie with a serious tone. I want something that feels real. If we’ve got Burton, then why not get Johnny Depp too? He already knows the subject matter.

Your comment was like seeing a bright lamp glowing on a distant hill on a dark and windy night. If there was a Like button here, I would click it.

Many thanks,
Dale Larner

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[Vincent alias Jack]

And then, unfortunately, to the lay public Dale Lernar will be on equal footing as Stewart Evans. Wait, Stewart who? Dale Lernar will rival Patricia Cornwell as the top expert in the field. The danger of these books is that the majority cannot discriminate the good from the not so good.

Not leaving out Rumbelow, Begg, Sugden, and others, I have a high regard for Stewart Evans.

Patricia Cornwell has excellent writing skills and, early on as a newbie, I enjoyed her Ripper book, but then I learned the facts and realized she had seriously stretched things to the point of breaking to try and match things up. I vowed not to do the same.

I hope the majority will be able to discern that my book is one of the good ones, both in the writing and in keeping to the facts. Give me Cornwell's writing and the relentless adherence to the facts from Evans, and I'll be sure to be one of the good ones.

Sincerely,
Dale Larner

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[John Wheat]

I think Henry Flower and Barnaby are talking a lot of sense.

[Suzi]

Can we get some sanity here ??

[Bridewell]

My psychiatrist tried to tell me about those images I was seeing in the painting. He said, as he stroked his beard, “They are simply manifestations of your imagination, triggered by a strong subconscious desire to unscramble what the murderer did to Mary Kelly’s face, so as to see what she looked like.” I told him I disagreed."

Hi Dale,

It's reassuring to know that you have a psychiatrist.

Seriously, you need to be able to back up what you say with evidence, because your claims will be subject to very close scrutiny. Is there a publication date yet for your book?

Regards, Bridewell

[Henry Flower]

Mr Larner,

You are very gracious to react to my scorn the way you do - it's admirable indeed and I thank you for it.

However, none of that changes the fact that I think your case is at best utterly delusional, and at worst dishonest, and consequently immoral. I have read every word on your website and watched all of your videos, and I'm afraid that, as gracious as you might be in the face of criticism, I have rarely seen videos that manage to cram as many belly-laughs into so short a timescale.

Your theorising and analysis are quite simply the most pitifully silly I've ever read in a field already noted for its sometimes abysmal lack of standards.

Truly, Dale, those videos... they are hilarious. I simply don't know whether you're brazenly trying to scam the ignorant for a quick buck and some brief notoriety, or... you're mentally ill. I don't mean that flippantly. Really, your work is so absolutely delusional that I worry for you. Unless you're simply an ugly con-artist. You wouldn't be the first in Ripperology, but that wouldn't make it any less ugly.

Dead dogs and door knockers...

[Cogidubnus]

Tell us what you REALLY think

I really wish you weren't so bloody wishy-washy Henry...

Dave

[Henry Flower]

Comfortable sat here on the fence, thank you!

Dave, I apologise for being wishy, and especially washy. Thing is, I'd hate to offend or upset anyone.



Besides, I don't imagine Mr Larner is shedding too many tears. Given that he has studied the life of Vincent and found in him above all a sense of 'entitlement' that led him to travel secretly to London in order to rip open the guts of downtrodden prostitutes and pull their organs out, Mr Larner can't be so afflicted with what we might call 'sensitivity' that my words could hurt him in any way.

[Henry Flower]

PS - Mr Larner: I'll soon be filming the birth of my first child, and I wondered would you grant me permission to use as a soundtrack the incredibly and unremittingly dramatic music from your 'reveal' videos?

On watching them I was struck by the postmodern grinding of gears between the embarrassingly overdramatic music and the painfully underwhelming bathos of your imaginary revelations - and it occurred to me that the music could be used to similar comic effect in almost any context. Would you mind?

Additionally, unless you have already copyrighted the phrase, would you mind if I adopted 'Knocker Face' as a new nickname? In England it perhaps has a slightly different connotation, one which appeals to me greatly.

Sincerely,

Henry Flower.