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  • Robert
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    I'm not aware of anyone having posted this yet, so here is the full item :

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  • Limehouse
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    Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
    Oh do stop talking rubbish.
    Do you know how much the BBC pays Jeremy Clarkson for being 'outrageous?
    Did you know the 'outburst' was actually carefully rehearsed?

    Did you know he is one of Cameron's best pals?

    21,000 people found his views so offensive they emailed to the BBC to object.
    Precisely, Norma, Clarkson knew he was going to be asked that question so had plenty of time to think of a reply. And there he sat with a big, fat public sector salary and no chance of seeing any real harship in his old age and he insulted thousands of people who have literally died in front of their families for being trade union members. For what? Freedom of speech? For a 'joke'?
    You are so right - a horrible man.

    Julie

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  • Limehouse
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    Originally posted by Adam Went View Post
    At risk of sounding sexist or ageist, it would be interesting to know what demographic the majority of those who objected to Clarkson's comments fit into. I'd be willing to bet that, aside from the public sector workers, the vast majority would be older people who try and take the moral high ground. Oh the irony that those who headed the movement for equal rights and freedom of speech in decades gone by are now almost invariably the same ones who wish to stop people from having their basic rights of free speech!

    After all, that's what it was, and all it was. Clarkson gets paid to give his opinion, he got asked his opinion, he gave his opinion - again, anybody who has watched anything of the man over the years knows full well that he is not one to hide his true views behind a layer of empty platitudes. There's enough of that goes on as it is.

    Cheers,
    Adam.
    People who campaigned for equal rights did not do so in order that people like Clarkson could be pubically offensive and insensitive.

    With freedom of speech comes responsibility, particularly if what you are saying is broadcast to millions. In any case, few people are denying Clarkson's right to say what he did, they are just exercising their right of reply.

    The BBC is irresponsible in this matter, just as they were over Ross and brand, because they knew what each of these idiots was going to say and do in advance and just went ahead and allowed it.

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  • Adam Went
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    At risk of sounding sexist or ageist, it would be interesting to know what demographic the majority of those who objected to Clarkson's comments fit into. I'd be willing to bet that, aside from the public sector workers, the vast majority would be older people who try and take the moral high ground. Oh the irony that those who headed the movement for equal rights and freedom of speech in decades gone by are now almost invariably the same ones who wish to stop people from having their basic rights of free speech!

    After all, that's what it was, and all it was. Clarkson gets paid to give his opinion, he got asked his opinion, he gave his opinion - again, anybody who has watched anything of the man over the years knows full well that he is not one to hide his true views behind a layer of empty platitudes. There's enough of that goes on as it is.

    Cheers,
    Adam.

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  • jason_c
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    Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
    and would you be quite happy to have allowed someone to go on that show and speak about Queen Elizabeth ,for example ,in exactly the way Clarkson insulted those people taking union action - or your mother or father or a member of your family?

    ps
    re Jeremy Clarkson and his Top Gear show-Norway's mass killer Breivik praises
    him and his show
    .

    The highlighted part of your post is interesting. Its not enough to simply criticize Clarkson but you feel a need to blacken him by linking him to a crazed/political serial killer.

    I hope i'd be fairly unaffected if someone made such remarks about the Queen. She's a public figure after all.
    Last edited by jason_c; 12-05-2011, 03:29 AM.

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  • Natalie Severn
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    thanx for your reply dear Phil.Quite right.Lovely to hear from you and glad you are keeping well xxx

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  • Phil Carter
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    Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
    re Jeremy Clarkson and his Top Gear show-Norway's mass killer Breivik praises
    him and his show.
    Hello Norma,

    Most of the great majority of the Norwegian population don't really care, not listen to, Anders Breivik's comments on anything.
    The man is best ignored.. because his statements are his methodology of gaining a podium.

    The reaction of the Norwegians afterwards told the world.. it's outrageous, it's unacceptable and it is best not given attention to above the fact that it was done and the mourning should be highlighted. After that, whether he is judged to be a legally unbalanced man, megalomaniac or psychopath... nobody cares. JKust keep him away from the society we live in. Forever.

    Thats the attitude of the population. So what he thinks about King Kong and peanuts and egg on toast... doesnt matter. Clarkson included.

    Hope you are well!


    best wishes


    Phil

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  • Natalie Severn
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    Originally posted by jason_c View Post
    Since when did the wrath of the populace mean anything to you? Would you be quoting these figures if the same amount of people endorsed the death penalty? banning homosexuality? migration reform?

    Free speech should not be curtailed by the mob or professional complainers.

    and would you be quite happy to have allowed someone to go on that show and speak about Queen Elizabeth ,for example ,in exactly the way Clarkson insulted those people taking union action - or your mother or father or a member of your family?

    ps
    re Jeremy Clarkson and his Top Gear show-Norway's mass killer Breivik praises
    him and his show.
    Last edited by Natalie Severn; 12-05-2011, 02:34 AM.

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  • jason_c
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    Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
    Oh do stop talking rubbish.
    Do you know how much the BBC pays Jeremy Clarkson for being 'outrageous?
    Did you know the 'outburst' was actually carefully rehearsed?

    Did you know he is one of Cameron's best pals?

    21,000 people found his views so offensive they emailed to the BBC to object
    .
    Since when did the wrath of the populace mean anything to you? Would you be quoting these figures if the same amount of people endorsed the death penalty? banning homosexuality? migration reform?

    Free speech should not be curtailed by the mob or professional complainers.

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  • jason_c
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    Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
    More to the point Jason is that Clarkson is the mouthpiece for the BBC.They can thus voice their own views hiding behind his stinking coat tails!.
    Horrible man-and 21,000 +people have now written in to day so.
    Jeremy Clarkson speaks no more for the BBC than does left wing comedian Stewart Lee, environmentalist David Attenborough, or countless talking heads wheeled in to BBC News 24.

    Im tired of liberal paternalist's whose main idea of free speech is to say words such as "christ" and "fu.ck" on television.
    Last edited by jason_c; 12-04-2011, 08:18 PM.

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  • Natalie Severn
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    Originally posted by DrHopper View Post
    Natalie Severn


    The ideal of Clarkson being a mouthpiece for the BBC is just laughable. By all means dislike the man, lots of people do. But don't make up spurious and completely ridiculous conspiracy theories to strengthen your dislike. That's just sad.
    Oh do stop talking rubbish.
    Do you know how much the BBC pays Jeremy Clarkson for being 'outrageous?
    Did you know the 'outburst' was actually carefully rehearsed?

    Did you know he is one of Cameron's best pals?

    21,000 people found his views so offensive they emailed to the BBC to object.

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  • DrHopper
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    Natalie Severn
    Are you living in some weird parallel universe?
    My God, really? Jeremy Clarkson as the 'real' voice of the BBC, that well known reactionary and right-wing organization. LOL.
    If you look carefully at coverage of the strikes and, well, any news item over the last 35 years, you will see a marked, distinct, and sometimes unbelievably irritating, liberal left-wing bias.
    The ideal of Clarkson being a mouthpiece for the BBC is just laughable. By all means dislike the man, lots of people do. But don't make up spurious and completely ridiculous conspiracy theories to strengthen your dislike. That's just sad.

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  • Steven Russell
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    Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
    More to the point Jason is that Clarkson is the mouthpiece for the BBC.They can thus voice their own views hiding behind his stinking coat tails!.
    Horrible man-and 21,000 +people have now written in to day so.
    True. And they can no doubt hide behind that stinker David Attenborough while he foists his uninformed and outrageous views on an unsuspecting public. BBC forever!

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  • Natalie Severn
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    Originally posted by jason_c View Post
    Mr Clarkson's TV show is a money making machine for the BBC. This money subsidizes much of the BBC's output.

    What is your contribution to society in comparison?
    More to the point Jason is that Clarkson is the mouthpiece for the BBC.They can thus voice their own views hiding behind his stinking coat tails!.
    Horrible man-and 21,000 +people have now written in to day so.

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  • Steven Russell
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    Originally posted by Limehouse View Post
    The consequences to which I was referring were the objections raised by people who did not think what Clarkson said was funny. He can't say things like that and expect people to stay silent.
    OK. I'm sure the last thing he would expect (or want) is for people to stay silent. So what?

    Best wishes,
    Steve.

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