Mengele stuff up for auction.

[Phil H]

My understanding is (and I am no expert) that the Protocols began as a Second Empire satire in France pre-1870 but were then adapted by the Tsarist secret police as a weapon to be used against the Jews.

There is absolutely NO evidence for or truth in the allegation that they are evidence of an international Jewish conspiracy.

Phil

[Errata]

I think as an american you must know a whole bunch about your laws and maybe you can answer that question mark of mine about having laws imposing the micro-filming of the diaries without needing the collector to agree on it. here I know from my previous job at the Shoah dep. by the national archives, that it would be done under duress.

There is no way any such law could pass. As long as the sale is legal, and appropriate taxes are paid on it, the US government has no place whatsoever in any private transaction. They cannot seize private property without the commission of a crime, and they cannot temporarily seize private property without a clear need for National security.

[Heinrich]

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And by the way, antisemitism has NEVER meant disagreement with the Israeli government or with Israel as a nation. That's antizionism.

"Zionism simply refers to support for the existence of a Jewish state—specifically, the state of Israel.… The harsh but undeniable truth is that what some like to call anti-Zionism is, in reality, anti-Semitism—always, everywhere and for all time. Therefore, anti-Zionism is not a politically legitimate point of view but rather an expression of bigotry and hatred." (Quoted in Brian Klug, The Myth of the New Anti-Semitism, Nation, January 15, 2004)

[Robert]

God only knows what this is all about.

http://www.nkusa.org/

[Sister Hyde]

There is no way any such law could pass. As long as the sale is legal, and appropriate taxes are paid on it, the US government has no place whatsoever in any private transaction. They cannot seize private property without the commission of a crime, and they cannot temporarily seize private property without a clear need for National security.

that sucks... I guess then the only thing is to ask nicely... and I also imagine that won't do, on the other hand if he was as a good writer as Hitler and artist, then I'm really not curious.

[Errata]

God only knows what this is all about.

http://www.nkusa.org/

Yeah that's nothing new. But it is an illustration as to why there is a difference between anti-zionism and antisemitism.

Some orthodox Jews believe that when the time comes for us to return to the Holy Land, G-d will lead us there. They do not support the state of Israel because they believe it is contrary to G-d's plan, that if he wanted us there certain signs and portents would have come to pass. However there are some others (not this group) who feel that we renounced our right to Israel after treating the Palestinians like crap.

I couldn't tell you if either group is right. I stand firmly in the "life is complicated" camp, and we don't always get it right. Nothing was ideal before, during, and after the foundation of Israel, and it probably would have saved quite a lot of grief if we had not settled there, but then where else were we gonna go? So we could have done it better, and we still could do it better, but we can't even agree on what "better" is so I stay out of it as often as I can.

[Robert]

The thing is, there has not been nor ever could be any Jewish world conspiracy, because the Jews could not possibly agree on anything (I think they themselves admit to an argumentative trait).