Troubles with Whitechapel

[Versa]

hiya Robert

Well, not adopted but fostered. Yes I don't see how collecting the pension would do that.

Yes sorry, fostered I'm not sure if you needed to produce a birth cert to get your pension in the 50's/60's?

Having never been married, I don't know if one had to show a birth certificate. I don't think so.

I don't think you had to (I did get married once and I put my step dad down as my dad so Im pretty sure I didnt need to show my birth cert)

Brentford isn't that far from Wimbledon, but of course if she was fostered, then she would be under a completely different name. A look through the relevant baptism records might sort it out.

I'm a bit rubbish at searching for births and baptisms for some reason lol but I can't find a baptism for her. That could just mean she wasnt baptised though...

[Robert]

Hi Versa

Even if she had to show a birth cert to get her pension, I don't see how this would suddenly produce the remark, "Ah, you were fostered."

I think Brentford records are at the LMA. With Wimbledon, it's tricky e,g in 1884 part of Wimbledon was transferred from Kingston (you'll have noticed Kingston as a birth registration place for some of her siblings). So Kingston at one time included part of Wimbledon. When people put a birth place on the census, it tends to be what they think the area is, rather than what is strictly correct.

[Versa]

hiya Robert
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Even if she had to show a birth cert to get her pension, I don't see how this would suddenly produce the remark, "Ah, you were fostered."[QUOTE=Robert;179906] we assumed that she received her birth cert and the mother and father listed were different or she was unable to get a birth cert under her known name

I think Brentford records are at the LMA. With Wimbledon, it's tricky e,g in 1884 part of Wimbledon was transferred from Kingston (you'll have noticed Kingston as a birth registration place for some of her siblings). So Kingston at one time included part of Wimbledon. When people put a birth place on the census, it tends to be what they think the area is, rather than what is strictly correct.

Ah good to know might explain some of my rubbishness lol

[Robert]

Hi Versa

Ok, well, if she had a birth cert it hasn't survived, so we don't know which cert she had. It seems strange if a fairly newlywed couple fostered a child without there being some compelling reason, e.g. father's or mother's sister has illegitimate child and said sister dies in childbirth.

[Versa]

Ok, well, if she had a birth cert it hasn't survived, so we don't know which cert she had. It seems strange if a fairly newlywed couple fostered a child without there being some compelling reason, e.g. father's or mother's sister has illegitimate child and said sister dies in childbirth.

hiya robert, yes we do think there were some certificates including the marriage cert that were in my grandfathers possession at one time but seem to have been since lost and its possible that a birth cert was among them

It does seem strange if its the Mitchells from 14 sutton lane but like you said they could of taken a child of a relative in... We do have an old family history book in which my grandmother has written Mary Elizabeth Mitchell with the name/word 'White' underneath it so its possible the name 'White' meant something but we cant be sure of that! Im still looking lol

[Robert]

Hi Versa

It sounds like the kind of thing that might be unravelled one day, but there's no guarantee.

[Versa]

Hiya Robert, yes it might be unravelled in time but its not going to happen this week! I'm moving house this week and then wont have internet for 3 weeks so every things on hold atm!

I'm still looking at other Mitchells because she claimed to have come from Whitechapel and thats an odd place to claim to come from if you dont. But then that clashes a bit with the farmer father (although there were city farms at that time). I have a suspicion that she just didnt tell her family the truth about something but we dont know what!

[Robert]

Hi Versa

Well, keep with it. As time passes more info becomes available, and it is sometimes possible to get to the bottom of these things.

Good luck with the house move!