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Hello Dave, I've previously commented on the “incorrect“, unfortunate title used by Michael for his thread, because Palin is technically not “evil“, in any sense of the term whatsoever, even if her nomination to presidential candidate would bring out evil consequences (and endless embarrassment for the US internationally).
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Yes Maria, but she will not be nominated by the choice of others.
She'd most certainly be nominated by the choice of OTHERS (despite of her very own delusions of grandeur). The Republican party's not that dumb. Strategically it's a whole another matter to nominate Palin as a vice-presidential candidate to “rejuvenate“ and to “politically correct“ their campaign featuring Methusalah McCain as President (especially on a year when the opposite party went for a woman and a black guy as presidential candidates), still, the Republicans are not as dumb as to go for an already failed election candidate twice, especially for a candidate featuring such low caliber and severely lacking experience and basic intelligence, as Palin does.
The analogy is not entirely unfounded. Just as Hitler used a macro theory of all Jews having certain properties, Palin invoked "Joe Six pack" to express the alcoholic, blue collar nature of the GOP voter base. Neither are accurate, both were used extensively and nationally as part of political rhetoric. Oh and of course, they are both dumber than a box of rocks. Dave
We are all born cute as a button and dumb as rocks. We grow out of cute fast!
Just as Hitler used a macro theory of all Jews having certain properties, Palin invoke "Joe Six pack" to express the alcoholic, blue collar nature of the GOP voter base. Neither are accurate, both were used extensively and nationally as part of political rhetoric.
What's new? Politicians have been using such generalisations, trying to reach out and “identify“ with group voters since the dawn of human civilization.
Hitler (besides having been essentially stupid and mentally ill, though obviously not of such minor capacities as Palin) was actually quite the successful campaigner (though he didn't organize the campaigns himself), taking great advantage of the fact that Germany was in complete shambles during the Weimar Republic, after having been taken advantage of (by their own mistakes) and left severely diminished in the power exchange after World War I.
Still, I don't see any reason whatsoever to compare an evil world leader with an insignificant resigned governor/wannabe candidate from Alaska.
Limehouse most clearly didn't compare Palin to Hitler, Chainz.
Why is this so hard to understand? All I posted was that you can have a discussion with someone without calling them evil and an idiot. Why Adolf Hitler is even brought up in a thread about Sarah Palin blows my mind.
But I really don't want to get into this anymore so I guess we can just disagree
Later
Jordan
Chainz/Jordan, Limehouse mentioned Hitler as a reference to evil, not in any comparison to Palin. I agree that Michael's calling Palin “evil“ was inflammatory, but it'd be quite impossible to deny Palin's idiocy. Voters lobbying for Palin are not necessarily all idiots ;-) too, as many folks clearly do so for sentimental reasons, such as Hunter and Stan Reid. I'm also pretty sure that noone called Palin supporters “evil“. So there's no real need to get upset. (At least until Palin's really close to getting nominated as a presidential candidate, but this will never happen, so no worries.)
Chainz/Jordan, Limehouse mentioned Hitler as a reference to evil, not in any comparison to Palin. I agree that Michael's calling Palin “evil“ was inflammatory, but it'd be quite impossible to deny Palin's idiocy. Voters lobbying for Palin are not necessarily all idiots ;-) too, as many folks clearly do so for sentimental reasons, such as Hunter and Stan Reid. I'm also pretty sure that noone called Palin supporters “evil“. So there's no real need to get upset. (At least until Palin's really close to getting nominated as a presidential candidate, but this will never happen, so no worries.)
Why do you feel the need to call someone so many names? I knew some people in high school who did this non stop and they were without a doubt the worst people I have ever met. When you keep posting this I keeping thinking back to them and I don't want to because I really, really hope you're not like that. But I guess I've made my point so I'm not going to be a part of this discussion anymore
Later
Jordan
I wasn't aware of calling anybody names. (?)
Actually I completely despise bullies (at school or not), and I've always engaged in protecting the “weaker“ and the underdogs (whatever that means).
Limehouse most clearly didn't compare Palin to Hitler, Chainz.
Hi Maria
Thank you!
Chainz - you talked about why you don't like politics and discussed how you can have a debate about politics without calling the politicians 'evil'. I was simply pointing out that you can actually call Hitler 'evil'. He was. I am not camparing him with SP - just stating that sometimes it is relevant to say that a politician is 'evil'.
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