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If the Republicans actually do nominate her, they are signing their death warrant and most of them are smart enough to know it. Obama beat her once. He'll easily beat her again.
Pre-ci-se-ly. In my opinion, she's just covering ground until the real Republican candidate comes through.
I too (as the entire Germany) was worried in 2008 that McCain makes it, then kicks off and she ends up president.
Initially I was also worried about Obama being too green, and would have preferred Edwards or Hillary, but Obama's been doing fine (under the circumstances). Plus looking at the big picture I'm good that there was first a black American president before a female one. A female one will come anyway, at some point in the near future or later.
Its amazing that folks bitch and moan but keep electing the same old people from both parties' machinery time and time again expecting something different. This country's had enough of the Kennedys, Bushs, Clintons and now the Chicago mob.
I have a low regard for nearly all politicians but at least Sara Palin isn't from the Harvard, Princeton bunch that have never shot their own food, processed it themselves and then ate it. Those folks always get 'peasants' to do that and then lie out their ass about being for the common man while giving working people's money to their cronies, send their kids to private schools and ride around in jets that emit more carbon in one trip than my pickup truck will in its lifetime.
The fact that the media and the political machinery of both parties are demonizing her is making her more popular with regular folks.
Hunter,
surely you're not suggesting that Paley would make a better president than JFK?!!
I completely understand your distaste for Ivy league elitism, but being able to shoot their own food and process it themselves before eating it are not essential qualifications for becoming president of the United States, at least not in the 21st century. The reason Sarah Palin is distastful is NOT that we perceive her as a “redneck“ or “white trash“, but that she's ludicrously stupid, incompetent, uneducated, and thus very dangerous. Had she possessed any intelligence whatsoever, she would have obtained a good education on scholarship, and she would have been respected for her intelligence and achievements, and respected even more for starting out poor.
Obama and Hillary might come from middle class, but Bill Clinton grew up poor, and all of them went to college on scholarship, not on “parentship“.
Also, surely you're not implying that Princeton and Harvard graduates ride around in jets? As for private schools, I assure you that the faculty at the University of Chicago, where I partly work, send their kids to the (totally bare bones, built in wood structure, looking very much like a barn) local state school in Chicago Hyde Park. Including my boss, who's a Princeton graduate, and walks his 2 granddaughers to that tiny little school every second morning. When in Chicago, I happen to live 2 blocks south of the Obama house, and it's not tiny, but it's definitely bare bones, and located in a neighborhood plagued by crime (as in, at least 2 people got shot a block away from the Obamas' house in the last 3 years).
WOW!!! Don't you just have to love "those" Americans???
I seem to have spent the better part of the last week, bashing my head against a brick wall, attempting to explain to any number of US "Tea Party" types, who I am sure are perfectly well meaning, albeit woefully ill-educated, that Adolf Hitler was NOT a rabid Left Wing Commie-Pinko type!!! "But Hitler was a national "SOCIALIST" they cry!!! An impasse of misunderstanding which, sadly, the average "Tea-bagger" seems to be genetically incapable of surmounting! It really would be so damn laughable, if it weren't so damn sad!!!
Best Wishes,
Zodiac.
P.S. I have always been, ever since I first learned of it, some 25 years ago or so, one who has been quick to debunk/dismiss the very idea that the end of the Mayan Calendar cycle in 2012, would, in any way, constitute the "End of the World". But I have to admit that the very thought of Sarah Palin ever having her finger on the Nuclear trigger, is more than enough to cause me to have to rethink my entire world view!!!
And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With old odd ends, stol'n forth of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.
We have a guy with his finger on the nuclear trigger now who never did anything in his life other than walk around with a clipboard. He only got into office by digging up stories of marital discord regarding his opponents.
Hey Zodiac, cool that you're back! I have to confess that until a few months ago I was regularly having chuckle fits remembering your “Sir Robert Anderson's ARSE in the Thames – DISASTER – reflect on the victims and consequences“ joke.
And yes, I bet Sarah Palin would do it. She would nuke us all on December 31, 2012. ;-)
We have a guy with his finger on the nuclear trigger now who never did anything in his life other than walk around with a clipboard.
Hi Stan,
Well, however badly you may dislike him, and for whatever reasons, at least he has some intellect. Now, of course, I realise that "Intellect" is a "dirty word" for many God fearing Americans, no doubt one of those God damn, Commie-Pinko, Socialist, "Old Europe" kind of words!!! Put it this way Stan, I would much rather have him in charge of the worlds largest Nuclear Arsenal than the former "Miss Wasilla", 1984!!!
Buts, lets allow her words to speak for themselves shall we???
"All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years." --Sarah Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008.
"Well, let's see. There's ― of course in the great history of America there have been rulings that there's never going to be absolute consensus by every American, and there are those issues, again, like Roe v. Wade, where I believe are best held on a state level and addressed there. So, you know, going through the history of America, there would be others but ―" --Sarah Palin, unable to name a Supreme Court decision she disagreed with other than Roe vs. Wade, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008.
"'Refudiate,' 'misunderestimate,' 'wee-wee'd up.' English is a living language. Shakespeare liked to coin new words too. Got to celebrate it!'" --a Tweet sent by Sarah Palin in response to being ridiculed for inventing the word "refudiate," proudly mistaking her illiteracy for literary genius, July 18, 2010.
"But obviously, we've got to stand with our North Korean allies." --Sarah Palin, after being asked how she would handle the current hostilities between the two Koreas, interview on Glenn Beck's radio show, Nov. 24, 2010.
"Especially within hours of a tragedy unfolding, journalists and pundits should not manufacture a blood libel that serves only to incite the very hatred and violence they purport to condemn. That is reprehensible." --Sarah Palin, defending her fiery campaign rhetoric in the wake of the Arizona shooting massacre by invoking a phrase ("blood libel") that typically refers historically to the alleged murder of Christian babies by Jews, Jan. 12, 2011. Thats right Sarah, don't retreat, Reload!!!
"We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. ... We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation." --Sarah Palin, speaking at a fundraiser in Greensboro, N.C., Oct. 16, 2008.
"We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn't that ironic?" --Sarah Palin, admitting that her family used to get treatment in Canada's single-payer health care system, despite having demonized such government-run programs as socialized medicine that will lead to death-panel-like rationing, March 6, 2010.
"Ohh, good, thank you, yes." --Sarah Palin, after a notorious Canadian prank caller complimented her on the documentary about her life, Hustler's "Nailin Paylin," Nov. 1, 2008.
Best wishes,
Zodiac.
And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With old odd ends, stol'n forth of holy writ;
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.
I probably shouldn't have posted anything on this thread. My mistake. I joined these forums because the subject is different from the politically controversial topics that permeate most forums. And I enjoy the respite from the day to day issues that most people talk about.
I was raised up in the South, by two great parents that instilled the values of a small town culture and a close knit society.... learned to be independant and self reliant. My father owned his own blue collar business that I now own. I have seen the changes that have taken place in our culture and government and the effects they have produced. I have downsized my business and now work less employees than I have in 20 years because the combination of corrupt investors, government regulations and illegal immigrant competition have forced me to do so. But I am surviving and will do so... not because of government, but in spite of it. When people like me decide to set on our asses instead of picking ourselves up and trying harder, this country will collapse from its own weight.
I make no apologies that I can relate to the likes of Sara Palin more than any of the empty suits that have always been in power and have corrupted our system of government beyond repair.
My example of Palin hunting for her own food was only given in the context of self reliance as opposed to the parasites that keep getting elected because they promise goodies to people without thinking of the consequences of their actions. Some of the smartest people that I have delt with barely have a high school education, but they were successful business men and women anyway. They had something better than that - the drive to get up and go the extra mile to be successful despite their iniquities or roadblocks they encountered along the way.
I am a high school graduate... nothing more. Everything else that I have learned has either been in the school of hard knocks or from my desire to read as much literary material as I can consume.
I will confine any further post to the subject of this website and the interest thereof because I have made a lot of dear friends here that may not share my political views; and that's all right, because we share this one subject in common and help each other learn more about this fascination time in history... and that's good enough for me.
Best Wishes,
Hunter
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When evidence is not to be had, theories abound. Even the most plausible of them do not carry conviction- London Times Nov. 10.1888
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