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  • Graham
    Assistant Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 3813

    #196
    Edward Hardwicke took over the role from David Burke, and I thought he stayed with it until the series ended. Was it David Burke you meant, C.D.?

    Graham
    We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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    • c.d.
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 6597

      #197
      Hi Graham,

      I thought it was the other way around and that David Burke took over for Edward Hardwicke but that might have to do with the order in which they showed the programs here in America. I will accept your explanation.

      Last night I started to watch "The Final Problem" which I had seen before with Edward Hardwicke. This time David Burke was in it. I thought that was rather strange that they would film it twice with a different Watson each time.

      c.d.

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      • TomTomKent
        Detective
        • Feb 2010
        • 371

        #198
        just picked up Doctor Jekyll and Mister Holmes. Not had a chance to read it yet, but have my fingers crossed it wont be as awful as some of the other "Holmes Meets..." books out there.
        There Will Be Trouble! http://www.amazon.co.uk/A-Little-Tro...s=T.+E.+Hodden

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        • Tom_Wescott
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 7001

          #199
          Originally posted by The Grave Maurice
          Holmes was known to use the alias "Escott"
          These days he goes by Wescott, thank you very much.

          Yours truly,

          Tom Wescott

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          • Tom_Wescott
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 7001

            #200
            Who, What, When, Where, and Watson

            Hi all,

            David Burke played Watson first and to my knowledge Jeremy Brett only did ONE 'Final Problem', not redoing it with two different Watsons. Burke loved playing Watson but had other commitments when they resumed after the first season. I believe these had something to do with a project involving his wife? They were very fortunate in that they were able to find two actors who did such a great job playing Watson.

            As a sort of torch passing, Hardwicke recalled once how the fellow who played Watson under Rathbone (his name skips me) was a friend of his father's and would often come to his house. In return, Jude Law (Watson under Downey Jr.) appeared on screen with Hardwicke in a Sherlock Holmes episode.

            Yours truly,

            Tom Wescott

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            • Graham
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 3813

              #201
              I saw only one "Final Problem", and that was with Hardwicke as Watson.

              The Watson to Rathbone's Holmes was Nigel Bruce, who played the good doctor as though he was a bumbling idiot. Edward Hardwicke's father was Sir Cedric Hardwicke, best known to Americans for playing King Arthur in A Connecticut Yankee In King Arthur's Court, and best known to Brits for playing parts that required a degree of acting skill.

              Graham
              We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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              • TomTomKent
                Detective
                • Feb 2010
                • 371

                #202
                If I remember rightly the confusion may come from the reprise in the Return of Sherlock Holmes series began with scenes from the Final Problem restaged with the new Watson. Been a long time since I watched it though, so my old nogging may be playing tricks on me again.
                There Will Be Trouble! http://www.amazon.co.uk/A-Little-Tro...s=T.+E.+Hodden

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                • c.d.
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 6597

                  #203
                  Originally posted by TomTomKent View Post
                  If I remember rightly the confusion may come from the reprise in the Return of Sherlock Holmes series began with scenes from the Final Problem restaged with the new Watson. Been a long time since I watched it though, so my old nogging may be playing tricks on me again.

                  Yes, that explains it. I should have thought of that.

                  c.d.

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                  • c.d.
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 6597

                    #204
                    I didn't think David Burke was bad in the role just that to me Edward Hardwicke was so much better and seemed more like the character of Watson that Conan Doyle described. I also thought that Jeremy Brett seemed to interact better with Hardwicke.

                    c.d.

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                    • c.d.
                      Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 6597

                      #205
                      Watson resumed living at Baker Street after his wife died is that correct? Did Conan Doyle ever say how she died?

                      c.d.

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                      • Graham
                        Assistant Commissioner
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 3813

                        #206
                        Watson did eventually return to Baker Street, but at the time of The Empty House he was still living in his own house.

                        Mary Watson died as a result of her parachute not opening in a charity jump.

                        Graham
                        We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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                        • Robert
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 5163

                          #207
                          A cruel death - made crueller by the fact that no one told her beforehand to pull the cord.

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                          • Graham
                            Assistant Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3813

                            #208
                            Originally posted by Robert View Post
                            A cruel death - made crueller by the fact that no one told her beforehand to pull the cord.
                            It was even crueller than that, because parachutes hadn't been invented when she was conned into agreeing to make that jump.

                            Graham
                            We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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                            • Robert
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 5163

                              #209
                              Ah, well I take that back - no one can be blamed for failing to tell her to pull a non-existent cord. In fact, I don't see what she's complaining about.

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                              • Zodiac
                                Detective
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 160

                                #210
                                Victorian Parachutes!!!

                                Originally posted by Graham View Post
                                It was even crueller than that, because parachutes hadn't been invented when she was conned into agreeing to make that jump.

                                Graham
                                Not so, my dear Graham!!! Clearly you have not read my monograph on "Parachutes and Deployable Recovery Systems."

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                                Best wishes,
                                Zodiac.
                                And thus I clothe my naked villainy
                                With old odd ends, stol'n forth of holy writ;
                                And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.

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