All Things Conan Doyle & Holmes

[Zodiac]

In the Basil Rathbone films. Holmes said "Hullo!" so many times, in the end they couldn't resist the joke and made Watson answer "Hullo."

Damn, the "Hays Code" really did put a dampener on the development of contempary comedy back then didn't it?!

Best Wishes,

Zodiac.

[Adam Went]

Zodiac:

I know what you mean - in the last Rathbone/Bruce movie, "Dressed To Kill", there is a place called the Gaylord....

Maybe Sir ACD knew exactly what he was saying and there was an intentional "blue" layer in the Holmes stories....

Cheers,
Adam.

[caz]

I don't know about Sir ACD, Adam. But I'm pretty sure that applies to Gilbert & Sullivan. Some of Gilbert's lyrics are more like single entendres than double ones.

Love,

Caz
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PS I fell asleep during Sherlock so will have to catch up on iplayer - unless some kind soul would fill me in about the suicides mystery.

[Robert]

In "The Empty House" Mrs Hudson says something like "I went to it on my hands and knees just like you told me, Mr Holmes."

[Zodiac]

In "The Empty House" Mrs Hudson says something like "I went to it on my hands and knees just like you told me, Mr Holmes."

"Coming Mrs Hudson!" I ejaculated!

Best wishes,

Zodiac.

[Robert]

Oh Mr Holmes, why do I always have to clear up your mess?

[Adam Went]

It's also interesting to note some of the other changes in wording things that were acceptable back then but which would get you in quite a bit of strife now....for instance, a few times i've seen the "N" word mentioned when describing a person of colour....

Cheers,
Adam.

[Robert]

They also used to say "You're a white man" as a sign of approval. Plus there were some strange last words e.g. "The professor - it was she." Good grammar at all times! And "You've done me" I think was Milverton's bid for immortality. Then there was that bit in The Crooked Man where a wife whose husband sold his love rival into the hands of the enemy, reproaches him with being another King David. At the height of a blazing row, the first parallel that springs to mind is Biblical.

[Chris]

They also used to say "You're a white man" as a sign of approval.

I remember being told as a child to "play the white man". Wikipedia comments that "the term is losing popularity in common parlance."

[Zodiac]

I remember being told as a child to "play the white man". Wikipedia comments that "the term is losing popularity in common parlance."

Hi Chris,

Yes, I remember the use of "Play the white man" being common back in the 70's. Also, "Don't Jew me" or "Don't Jew me down" and "Don't Jew out on me" etc. In England the use of the term "Paki" got used for anyone descended from anywhere at all in the Indian Sub-Continent!!! Almost everyone, myself included, would say "I'm just off to the Paki shop", usually meaning the corner shop, without a second thought! Nowadays if I hear the term "Paki" used, it just sounds so out of place/out of time. I don't know when this change happened, there was no "Light on the road to Damascus" moment, but everyone I know says, and has for years, "I'm just off to the shop". Or, in our native Yorkshire dialect, "Just off t'shop"!!!

Best Wishes,

Zodiac.

[belinda]

"Coming Mrs Hudson!" I ejaculated!

Best wishes,

Zodiac.

One must indeed ejaculate where Mrs Hudson is concerned. Mrs Hudson does not like to be kept waiting

[Zodiac]

One must indeed ejaculate where Mrs Hudson is concerned. Mrs Hudson does not like to be kept waiting

Hi Belinda,

Indeed!!! In fact, it was whispered abroad that our own dear sweet Mrs Hudson did, in fact, keep a dwarf Laskar with odd shoes and unpleasant hair, who had recently been discharged from the Welsh Fusiliers and had since fallen on hard times, but who was said to be "Blessed" in another department, chained up in her pantry for, as my old friend Mr Sherlock Holmes used to put it, "Her own purposes"!!!

Best Wishes,

Zodiac.

[belinda]

Hi Belinda,

Indeed!!! In fact, it was whispered abroad that our own dear sweet Mrs Hudson did, in fact, keep a dwarf Laskar with odd shoes and unpleasant hair, who had recently been discharged from the Welsh Fusiliers and had since fallen on hard times, but who was said to be "Blessed" in another department, chained up in her pantry for, as my old friend Mr Sherlock Holmes used to put it, "Her own purposes"!!!

Best Wishes,

Zodiac.

The woman deserves a Medal!After all that running around she has to do for Holmes and Watson she still has the energy to keep a dwarf in the Pantry. Outstanding

[c.d.]

She did keep a dwarf but only for a short time.

c.d.

[Robert]

Holmes never pays Mrs Hudson any rent. That's why he comes and goes in a variety of disguises.