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A few decades ago in Rhodesia there was a man whose name was a newsreader's nightmare :
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Originally posted by c.d. View PostAn interesting story -- I live in Washington, D.C. During the last government shutdown a group of elderly World War II veterans were scheduled to visit the WWII Memorial on the National Mall. Because of the shutdown it was closed and fenced off. A Republican congressman from Texas started to loudly berate a young female Park Ranger for denying them admittance. She politely responded that because of the shutdown the monument was closed and that she (while sympathetic to the veterans) was simply doing what she had been told to do by her superiors. The congressman continued to berate her at which point a number of people stepped forward and said to the congressman "hey ***hole, you and your fellow Republicans voted to shut down the government so leave this young lady alone." It started to get pretty ugly at which point the congressman's staff said it is probably best if we leave.
So if you don't like politics and politicians just think how I feel. I have to live with these bozos.
c.d.
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Originally posted by Ginger View PostIMHO, the last President who unequivocally put Country before Party was Jimmy Carter, but in his case the man was such an utter numpty that he did more harm than good (albeit with the best of intentions, it ought to be added).
Many politicians may be "trying to solve problems", but that isn't the same as actually solving them. We need to see what they deliver, and judge them on their record not their rhetoric.
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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostHadn't you better wait to see what he delivers, and any consequences therefrom, before drawing such a conclusion?
Events may well disappoint me. But, for the time being, the fact that Trump is actually trying to solve problems instead of setting his party up for the next election puts him head and shoulders above any recent POTUS. IMHO, the last President who unequivocally put Country before Party was Jimmy Carter, but in his case the man was such an utter numpty that he did more harm than good (albeit with the best of intentions, it ought to be added).
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The thing that confuses me is why christians aren't turned off by the vulgarity
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I greatly enjoyed watching politicians from both sides get up and run their mouths and blame the other side. Their sense of outrage was laughable. The fools didn't realize that when both side have so much ammunition getting up on your high horse is probably not the best strategy. I am surprised that God does not strike them all down for blatant hypocrisy.
c.d.
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An interesting story -- I live in Washington, D.C. During the last government shutdown a group of elderly World War II veterans were scheduled to visit the WWII Memorial on the National Mall. Because of the shutdown it was closed and fenced off. A Republican congressman from Texas started to loudly berate a young female Park Ranger for denying them admittance. She politely responded that because of the shutdown the monument was closed and that she (while sympathetic to the veterans) was simply doing what she had been told to do by her superiors. The congressman continued to berate her at which point a number of people stepped forward and said to the congressman "hey ***hole, you and your fellow Republicans voted to shut down the government so leave this young lady alone." It started to get pretty ugly at which point the congressman's staff said it is probably best if we leave.
So if you don't like politics and politicians just think how I feel. I have to live with these bozos.
c.d.
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Originally posted by c.d. View PostI always found it amusing that the fact that Obama had at one time been a "community organizer" made those on the right go crazy as though there was something actually wrong with that and that that had been the only job he ever had. Amusing since the essence of right wing philosophy is that everyone needs to take personal responsibility and not rely on government to pull themselves up. Obama simply tried to help those in his community better themselves. And it was something he did for just a short time right after college.
So while ripping Obama for only being a "community organizer" they conveniently glossed over the fact that he had also been a professor at the University of Chicago law school (not too shabby in and of itself) as well as a state senator and United States senator. He has no experience the right cried! Yet, they put forth as a candidate Donald Trump who never held ANY political office before being elected president. None. Zip. Nada. Yes, but he has real world experience they claimed as though the United States is a business.
Welcome to the world of politics.
c.d.
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Originally posted by c.d. View PostI always found it amusing that the fact that Obama had at one time been a "community organizer" made those on the right go crazy as though there was something actually wrong with that and that that had been the only job he ever had. Amusing since the essence of right wing philosophy is that everyone needs to take personal responsibility and not rely on government to pull themselves up. Obama simply tried to help those in his community better themselves. And it was something he did for just a short time right after college.
So while ripping Obama for only being a "community organizer" they conveniently glossed over the fact that he had also been a professor at the University of Chicago law school (not too shabby in and of itself) as well as a state senator and United States senator. He has no experience the right cried! Yet, they put forth as a candidate Donald Trump who never held ANY political office before being elected president. None. Zip. Nada. Yes, but he has real world experience they claimed as though the United States is a business.
Welcome to the world of politics.
c.d.
I am astonished that some people consider him the greatest president in their lifetime - but then I am only a humble UK citizen.
I wonder what the late Mrs Thatcher would have made of him? Mincemeat, perhaps?
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I always found it amusing that the fact that Obama had at one time been a "community organizer" made those on the right go crazy as though there was something actually wrong with that and that that had been the only job he ever had. Amusing since the essence of right wing philosophy is that everyone needs to take personal responsibility and not rely on government to pull themselves up. Obama simply tried to help those in his community better themselves. And it was something he did for just a short time right after college.
So while ripping Obama for only being a "community organizer" they conveniently glossed over the fact that he had also been a professor at the University of Chicago law school (not too shabby in and of itself) as well as a state senator and United States senator. He has no experience the right cried! Yet, they put forth as a candidate Donald Trump who never held ANY political office before being elected president. None. Zip. Nada. Yes, but he has real world experience they claimed as though the United States is a business.
Welcome to the world of politics.
c.d.
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Originally posted by Sam Flynn View PostThere's even more reason to be cautious about making premature judgments on how successful a presidency will be delivered by someone as naive and inexperienced as Donald Trump. Just because he's shot his mouth off in a crude and populist manner in his first year is no basis for calling him "the greatest president of my lifetime". It's not even a basis for suggesting that he will even become a great president; quite the contrary, if anything.
I'm not sure Trump has the stuff to be regarded as a "Great President" but these judgements are usually made long after someone is out of office. Will he be better than the mediocre Obama? Nothing I've seen from him so far indicates he wont.
He still has plenty of time to muck things up.
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Originally posted by ChrisGeorge View PostMmmmmm, much as the majority of Trump voters will get little or nothing from his administration's much vaunted tax cuts.
What on earth has this to do with the wall? I made a relevant and reasonable response to your post on the wall. Is it too much to expect a relevant response from you?
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Originally posted by DirectorDave View PostLike the Nobel Committee did with Obama?Last edited by Sam Flynn; 01-21-2018, 04:09 AM.
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Originally posted by jason_c View PostThis may not be as significant as you think. There is a relatively easy "get out" for both sides here. Any increased money flows from Mexico/Mexicans to the US government may just be lumped into central US Federal coffers. It doesn't have to be labelled as "money from Mexico to be paid exclusively for a border Wall". That way the Mexican government can tell Mexican's it isn't paying for the Wall. Trump can tell his voters the Wall is costing them little or nothing.
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