Great Disappearances

[Harry D]

Jennifer Kesse's disappearance is still pretty freaky. Her possible abductor was caught on surveillance parking her car outside a nearby apartment complex. However, the CCTV was outdated and only took a snapshot every three seconds. In each of the three snapshots the person is obscured by a fencepost. It's almost as if they were destined to get away with it.

[GUT]

I found this so interesting I looked it up. I found this. I thought you might find it interesting, also but, who knows?


http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/...of_david_lang/

Have read that the question of course, as raised in the article, is which was based on which.

[Azarna]

My uncle bought me Mr Begg's book, "Into Thin Air" for my 12th birthday. I was thrilled and read it until it literally fell apart.

Now I am thinking I will get another copy as soon as possible, I wonder if I really remember it as well I suspect i do :-)

To the list I would like to add two British famous mystery disappearances:
Lord Lucan - 1974
Shergar - 1983

[Beowulf]

Or David Lang who was said to have disappeared before the very eyes of his wife, children and his friend the Judge, in USA in 1800's, or was this just a cover-up by the judge and the family.

I found this so interesting I looked it up. I found this. I thought you might find it interesting, also but, who knows?

http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/the_disappearance_of_david_lang/

[sdreid]

To the lists I posted on the first 2 or 3 pages, I will add some regional ones:

Evelyn Hartley-1953
Amelia Zelko-1957
Sal Pullia-1981
Veronica Blumhorst-1990

[sdreid]

Don't know if people have been keeping up, but it looks like the Lyon sisters case has been solved. Lloyd Welch has been indicted in the deaths of the two girls who disappeared 40 years ago. Their remains have yet to be discovered.

I've followed this case a little but I'm not sure what proof they have. If they find them on this guy's property then that will pretty much clinch it.

They couldn't get a guilty on the Etan Patz case either, although it was a hung jury and they are trying again.

[GUT]

Don't know if people have been keeping up, but it looks like the Lyon sisters case has been solved. Lloyd Welch has been indicted in the deaths of the two girls who disappeared 40 years ago. Their remains have yet to be discovered.

This gives hope that other cold cases from this time can still be solved.

There have been a few lately.

Here in Aus we've recently had a case solved fom the 70s-80's (well it certainly looks that way) involving the bombing of the Family Court and 4 murders. They always had a prime suspect and a tiny drop of degraded blood (that in reality could it seems only have been left by the killer) but not enoug to get DNA from, as technology progressed they eventually got the DNA and made an arrest.

[Harry D]

Don't know if people have been keeping up, but it looks like the Lyon sisters case has been solved. Lloyd Welch has been indicted in the deaths of the two girls who disappeared 40 years ago. Their remains have yet to be discovered.

This gives hope that other cold cases from this time can still be solved.

[Ginger]

Another weird aviation-related disappearance was over Lake Superior in 1953 when a USAAF Scorpion aircraft was scrambled to intercept an un-recognised aircraft coming in across the Lake from Canada. The USAAF claimed that the unknown aircraft was an RCAF C-47 (Dakota) but the RCAF denied that such an aircraft was airborne anywhere near Lake Superior on that day. For reasons not known to me, this is known as the Kinross Incident, and apparently much loved by UFOlogists.

"Kinross" comes from the fact that the F-89C involved was based at Kinross AFB in Michigan. It's also called the "Moncla case", after the name of the pilot, Felix Moncla.

[Harry D]

Amy Lynn Bradley's disappearance is quite a high profile missing persons case. The consensus seems to be that she was kidnapped from the ship and sold into human trafficking, but I've never bought into this theory. A 20-something year old American woman abducted from a cruise-ship who according to various eyewitnesses has been flaunted about by her captors several times since. 'Sex trafficking' just seems to be the go-to explanation every time a young woman goes missing. I think she either had an accident and fell overboard or someone on the ship attacked her and tossed her over the side when he was done.

That said, the picture of the prostitute that was uncovered on an adult services site does bear a strong resemblance to her - http://i.imgur.com/p1LHDVn.jpg

[Graham]

Another weird aviation-related disappearance was over Lake Superior in 1953 when a USAAF Scorpion aircraft was scrambled to intercept an un-recognised aircraft coming in across the Lake from Canada. The USAAF claimed that the unknown aircraft was an RCAF C-47 (Dakota) but the RCAF denied that such an aircraft was airborne anywhere near Lake Superior on that day. For reasons not known to me, this is known as the Kinross Incident, and apparently much loved by UFOlogists.

Graham

[GUT]

Yeah probably under 150 miles depending on just where you are gong two and from, but pretty wild conditions at times, you should cross it on the water wow, some of the worst conditions I've ever sailed.

[Graham]

Certainly have, Gut. Fred Valentich was, however, a trained pilot with many hours to his credit. And I believe the Bass Strait is only about 125 miles of open sea.

I believe that a Tiger Moth aircraft went missing a few years before Valentich,
but that this was put down to possible sabotage by proponents of a hydroelectric scheme that the occupants of the Tiger Moth were opposed to. Is that really how Australians go about things they don't agree with???

I've also read that its reputation as a 'death trap' of the Australian-built Bristol Beaufort twin-engined bomber was down to the number of these aircraft that went missing over the Bass Strait during WW2. However, I believe that the Strait was used for very low-level bombing and torpedo-dropping exercises, the most dangerous to the crews of all airborne attacks.

Graham

[GUT]

How about this for vanishing into thin air?

Late in 1978 Fred Valentich was flying a small aircraft across the Bass Strait between Tasmania and the Australian mainland. He sent a r/t message to Melbourne ATC asking if they had any image on their screens of a 'large aircraft' with four very bright lights showing. He was told there was no aircraft in the area other than his. Shortly afterwards, he radio'd that the 'large aircraft' was approaching him from due east, and that 'it seems to be playing some sort of game, flying at a speed I can't estimate....it is now flying past me....coming right at me now....it has a long shape....it looks sort of metallic....it is now right on top of me'.

Valentich then radio'd that his engine was faltering, and he informed Melbourne ATC that he would proceed to King Island, and that the unknown aircraft was now 'right on top of me'. Melbourne ATC radio-operator then heard a loud grinding noise on the radio that lasted for 17 seconds, then the radio from Valentich's aircraft went dead. No trace of him or his aircraft was ever found. Valentich's father said that if his son's aircraft had simply had engine trouble and gone down in the sea, then why was his son reporting the sighting of another aircraft hovering over him?

Not the only aircraft that disappeared without trace over the Bass strait.

Graham

Plenty of planes gone missing over the straight.

[Graham]

How about this for vanishing into thin air?

Late in 1978 Fred Valentich was flying a small aircraft across the Bass Strait between Tasmania and the Australian mainland. He sent a r/t message to Melbourne ATC asking if they had any image on their screens of a 'large aircraft' with four very bright lights showing. He was told there was no aircraft in the area other than his. Shortly afterwards, he radio'd that the 'large aircraft' was approaching him from due east, and that 'it seems to be playing some sort of game, flying at a speed I can't estimate....it is now flying past me....coming right at me now....it has a long shape....it looks sort of metallic....it is now right on top of me'.

Valentich then radio'd that his engine was faltering, and he informed Melbourne ATC that he would proceed to King Island, and that the unknown aircraft was now 'right on top of me'. Melbourne ATC radio-operator then heard a loud grinding noise on the radio that lasted for 17 seconds, then the radio from Valentich's aircraft went dead. No trace of him or his aircraft was ever found. Valentich's father said that if his son's aircraft had simply had engine trouble and gone down in the sea, then why was his son reporting the sighting of another aircraft hovering over him?

Not the only aircraft that disappeared without trace over the Bass strait.

Graham