Great Disappearances

[Mayerling]

On a thread on "Pub Talk" I suggested that possibly we should have a thread simply dealing with those cases that are of people or objects or lands (hello Atlantis) that have disappeared, either in actuality or in legend with possible grounding in actuality (again Atlantis). These are (to paraphrase Canadian Prime Minister Mackenzie) "not necessarily murder cases, but murder cases if we find them necessary."

To try to start this off, I will list my initial choices of the best known vanishing acts. Keep in mind, when dealing with people, homicide may be in the background. Certainly kidnapping can be for some (if not all) of the children that turn up missing.

Atlantis (to start at the beginning)
The creators of the statues on Easter Island
The first colony on Greenland
Hi/Hy-Brazil and other islands in the Atlantic "maps" before Columbus
The "Lost Colony" of Roanoke
John Cabot's last exploration
The Corte Real Brothers and their men
La Perouse's final fate (partially discovered in the early 19th Century)
Ludwig Leichardt
Sir John Franklin's last expedition (of which more information is forthcoming in the coming years)

Ships
City of Glasgow
Collins liner "Pacific"
City of Boston
Naronic
Warahtah

Planes
Squadron 13
Star Ariel and her sister "Star" airplane
dirigible "Dixmude"
Amelia Earhart/Fred Noonan's plane
Sir Charles Kingford-Smith's plane
Nungasser and Coli's plane (and did they actually get to North America or crash into the Atlantic)

New York State Chancellor John Lansing (vanished 1829)
William Morgan (revealer of Masonic information) (vanished in 1826)
Charlie Ross (kidnapped in 1874)
Amelia Jeffs (one of the West Ham cases - although they did find Ms Jeff's dead body, and they did sort of guess what happened)
Percy Fawcett
Michael Rockefeller
Jimmy Hoffa
Justice Joseph Force Crater
Ambrose Bierce

This list will give an idea of what I am talking about. Please feel free to enter into discussions on these and similar disappearances.

Jeff

[Scott Nelson]

Hey Jeff, I'll take Mu and James Churchward. What happened to it? Gas bubbles beneath the Pacific caused its collapse.

[GUT]

G'day Jeff

Glad to see you included Charlis Kingsford-Smith.

I'll be back with some more.

[GUT]

Louis Le Prince

Got on a train and never seen again.

[GUT]

Under shipping

The crew of MV Joyita.

[GUT]

Owen Parfitt

The paralysed stroke victim in 1763, where [or more to the point how] did he go.

[GUT]

The Norfolk Regiment

Where the heck did a whole regiment go, or did Turkey just lie after the war.

[GUT]

Or David Lang who was said to have disappeared before the very eyes of his wife, children and his friend the Judge, in USA in 1800's, or was this just a cover-up by the judge and the family.

[GUT]

The Beaumont Children in Adelaide, but 'm afraid I think that the answer there is obvious.

[pinkmoon]

Simon p makin

[GUT]

And how could we ever forget Spartacus. My goodness I could post on this thread for days, and may well do so.

[GUT]

Another related to Aus is George Bass, but again I suspect that the answer is probably pretty obvious. When you put out to sea sailing from Sydney to South Africa [or indeed anywhere] in 1803 the chances of disappearing at sea were always good.

[pinkmoon]

And how could we ever forget Spartacus. My goodness I could post on this thread for days, and may well do so.

I'm Spartacus!!!

[sdreid]

In no particular order:

Henry Hudson
Indiana Dunes Women
Dorothy Arnold
Alois Brunner
Bela Kiss
Andrew Irvine
Jodi Huisentruit
Suzy Lamplugh
Jean Spangler
Vincent Mangano
Hale Boggs
Helen Brach
Lord Lucan
Felix Moncla
Glenn Miller

Locally:

Fay Rawley
Richard Griener
Walter Donley

Personal Friend:

Robert Beutel

[pinkmoon]

Let's not forget the great D.B Cooper .