Karen Read

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Hi all!

I hope you are all having a great Wednesday.

I have been following (through my girlfriend... LOL) the trial of Karen Read in Boston, MA.

For those unfamiliar, Read was accused of hitting her boyfriend with her car and leaving him to die in the snow. Her first trial ended in a mistrial; the second one concluded just today with her being found not guilty.

There are lots more details to this case. In the USA, a documentary is available on Max titled "A Body in the Snow." There is also a decent summary on AP News here, although the documentary has much more info.

To me, this seems incredibly cut and dry as a frame job. Boston police are also quite notoriously corrupt (as are most police forces...). I'm just wondering what the incentive would be for a third party to murder Read's boyfriend.

If anyone is familiar with the case I'd love to hear your thoughts.

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Hi all!

I hope you are all having a great Wednesday.

I have been following (through my girlfriend... LOL) the trial of Karen Read in Boston, MA.

For those unfamiliar, Read was accused of hitting her boyfriend with her car and leaving him to die in the snow. Her first trial ended in a mistrial; the second one concluded just today with her being found not guilty.

There are lots more details to this case. In the USA, a documentary is available on Max titled "A Body in the Snow." There is also a decent summary on AP News here, although the documentary has much more info.

To me, this seems incredibly cut and dry as a frame job. Boston police are also quite notoriously corrupt (as are most police forces...). I'm just wondering what the incentive would be for a third party to murder Read's boyfriend.

If anyone is familiar with the case I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Absolutely crazy. I watched the first and second trial and the fact they tried a second time is bonkers. So much money wasted just to make everyone involved in the prosecution look even more guilty. I really hope the current federal investigation puts some of these people behind bars. Aunty Bev should never be allowed to hear another case again.

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Hi all!

I hope you are all having a great Wednesday.

I have been following (through my girlfriend... LOL) the trial of Karen Read in Boston, MA.

For those unfamiliar, Read was accused of hitting her boyfriend with her car and leaving him to die in the snow. Her first trial ended in a mistrial; the second one concluded just today with her being found not guilty.

There are lots more details to this case. In the USA, a documentary is available on Max titled "A Body in the Snow." There is also a decent summary on AP News here, although the documentary has much more info.

To me, this seems incredibly cut and dry as a frame job. Boston police are also quite notoriously corrupt (as are most police forces...). I'm just wondering what the incentive would be for a third party to murder Read's boyfriend.

If anyone is familiar with the case I'd love to hear your thoughts.

hi bone
ive been following it. based on the evidence i would say im surprised they even charged her with murder. its vehicular manslaughter (an accident while drunk) at best and even thats iffy. imho not guilty is the only reasonable verdict and the jury got it right.

i think there is also a slim chance the cops at the house killed him in a fight. karen read and one of tje cops there had been recently sending each other flirty texts. maybe he went in and that came out and there was a fight. she said she saw him go in alone and never came back so she got mad and left. maybe there was an altercation and they threw him out outside where in a drunk and dazed state he collapsed. one thing in her favor was a witness who saw her sitting alone in her car, and he was no where in sight.

to me if forced to choose i would say she accidently hit him not knowing he was behind the car. who the heck knows though it was a total drunken goat rope of a night.

but yes the boston police are notoriously shady...lots of troglodytes in that area.

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hi bone
ive been following it. based on the evidence i would say im surprised they even charged her with murder. its vehicular manslaughter (an accident while drunk) at best and even thats iffy. imho not guilty is the only reasonable verdict and the jury got it right.

i think there is also a slim chance the cops at the house killed him in a fight. karen read and one of tje cops there had been recently sending each other flirty texts. maybe he went in and that came out and there was a fight. she said she saw him go in alone and never came back so she got mad and left. maybe there was an altercation and they threw him out outside where in a drunk and dazed state he collapsed. one thing in her favor was a witness who saw her sitting alone in her car, and he was no where in sight.

to me if forced to choose i would say she accidently hit him not knowing he was behind the car. who the heck knows though it was a total drunken goat rope of a night.

but yes the boston police are notoriously shady...lots of troglodytes in that area.

Hi Abby!

I'm with you--if she did indeed hit him, it's manslaughter, no premeditation or intent. She was drinking that night, and from footage at the discovery of his body, was obviously still drunk hours later. In fact they DID find her guilty at this trial of drunk driving.

IMO, going after her on a murder charge makes the police look extremely conspiratorial and suspicious on this one. Especially given their alteration or withholding of evidence (mirroring security camera footage to make Read look more suspicious, hiding X-rays of the corpse that showed there were no arm fractures, making it less likely that he was struck by a car).

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Hi Abby!

I'm with you--if she did indeed hit him, it's manslaughter, no premeditation or intent. She was drinking that night, and from footage at the discovery of his body, was obviously still drunk hours later. In fact they DID find her guilty at this trial of drunk driving.

IMO, going after her on a murder charge makes the police look extremely conspiratorial and suspicious on this one. Especially given their alteration or withholding of evidence (mirroring security camera footage to make Read look more suspicious, hiding X-rays of the corpse that showed there were no arm fractures, making it less likely that he was struck by a car).

yes. and the cuts and scratches all up and down his arm, several of them parallel, really does look like a dog attack. and hmmm, the home owner got rid of the dog. i really cant see how a cars tail light could make all those marks.

i also thought it was also interesting a tech expert said his fit watch or something indicated up and down elevations, like someone going up and down stairs. which would fit with him going into tje house, going downstairs, a fight happening and him being taken back upstairs and then outside like the defense claimed.

which would also explain the web search for how long to die in the cold by the woman in tje house later but before his body was discovered.

i also found it extremely odd the cop homeowner never came out when the investigation was going on on his front yard. he said he slept through it. yeah right.

Amd the lead original investigator was fired for sending nasty texts about her. if i was tje prosecutor i would have dropped the case right there.

while i still think she probably did it by accident, tje cops were bending over backwards from the start to blame her. that the homeowner was also a well known, well connected cop pretty much assured they would only focus on her.

there was enough reasonable doubt to drive a truck through.

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there was enough reasonable doubt to drive a truck through.

This is the part I come back to! What were any of them thinking? It's incredibly obvious even at a quick glance that there was reasonable doubt and very poor evidence, and many, many eyes had to pass over the case and the evidence to bring it to the point of prosecution.

If the authorities who handled this weren't, to a man, complete idiots, then they had to assume that "we the people" are complete idiots who'll just accept anything we're told. I suppose both possibilities are par for the course in the US of A.