University of Idaho Stabbings

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  • Dickere
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    Originally posted by erobitha View Post
    There is still very little information available, but we know he studied at WSU (Washington State University), which is just 8 miles away across state lines. It was the next nearest university. I have never studied in an American University, but is it not fairly common practice for students to intermingle with other fraternities etc, from nearby universities? Especially that close?

    Upon his arrest, he asked if anyone else was arrested, which suggests an accomplice or perhaps a conspirator.

    His phone records closely match that of the victims' locations in the weeks leading up to the murders which suggests stalking behaviour.

    He has waived his right to extradition, meaning he will instantly be transferred to Idaho without contest.

    He claims he will be exonerated. That is an interesting use of language. Not proved innocent, but exonerated.

    I wonder if one of the survivors knew of him.
    He doesn't have to be proven innocent. He is innocent until proven guilty.

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  • Abby Normal
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    appears kohbergers dad flew out from PA to accompany his son on the drive back from Idaho/WA. I always suspected the parents knew, unless theyre just totally clueless and live under a rock.

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  • jmenges
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    Looks as though some in the media are giving sideways glances at Katherine Ramsland since the accused had taken classes where she was the professor. I even saw an interview with Kerri Rawson where they wondered aloud if Kohberger had corresponded with BTK - simply because Ramsland had written a (not very good) book about Dennis Rader. Typically, ‘high profile’ professors like Ramsland don’t bother themselves to learn their students names, let alone steer them to correspond with serial killers. Time will tell, but my initial gut feeling is dragging Katherine Ramsland through the mud is a bit premature.


    JM

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  • Abby Normal
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    I live in the states and went to college, and yes there is a a fair amount of interaction that goes on between students at different schools, especially when they are this close.

    Im wondeing if he was any of the men seen in the food truck video. either way it does seem like he may have been casing out those girls, either in person and or online, and at the very least may have encountered them the night they were murdered.

    There also seems to be alot of evidence he was socially awkward, creeped people, especially girls, out, and would say alot of inappropriate things. No evidence he ever had a girlfriend and i would guess he was sexually inexperienced, probably a virgin and may have resented it. and no evidence they were sexually assaulted at he scene. It reminds me of a zodiac and or son of sam type jealousy, hate of sexually active girls type thing. eventhough the hot prowl aspect reminds me of bundy and GSK, whos crimes were obviously very sexually motivated, it seems this guys motive was probably a sexually repressed one. Just goes to show how different serial killers can be.

    that they werent sexually assaulted at the scene, should have been a big indicator of this part of his personality. The ripper may have been the same way, as no overt evidence of sexual assault?
    Last edited by Abby Normal; 01-02-2023, 02:52 PM.

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  • Pcdunn
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    Rival college or university students could encounter each other at team games, assuming both institutions play athletics. There could also be academic competitions like debates. Or maybe campus fraternal organizations would meet one another socially, as suggested.

    I think they said the susthct's phone records show calls in the general area as the victims, within the same time frame, which places him in the area at the time of the murders.
    I think they're also investigating if social media links any of the victims (or survivors) with the accused.

    That's interesting, about the "exonerated" comment. Could just be a boast, as I think they have some DNA results placing him at the scene. But you never know...

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  • erobitha
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    There is still very little information available, but we know he studied at WSU (Washington State University), which is just 8 miles away across state lines. It was the next nearest university. I have never studied in an American University, but is it not fairly common practice for students to intermingle with other fraternities etc, from nearby universities? Especially that close?

    Upon his arrest, he asked if anyone else was arrested, which suggests an accomplice or perhaps a conspirator.

    His phone records closely match that of the victims' locations in the weeks leading up to the murders which suggests stalking behaviour.

    He has waived his right to extradition, meaning he will instantly be transferred to Idaho without contest.

    He claims he will be exonerated. That is an interesting use of language. Not proved innocent, but exonerated.

    I wonder if one of the survivors knew of him.

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  • Pcdunn
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    The suspect was studying criminology at a different college. I wonder if he thought he'd commit a "perfect crime" and baffle local police?

    Motive remains unknown so far. The extraordinary thing is how the tip about a white vehicle led them across the country to Pennsylvania!

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  • Pcdunn
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    Man linked to killings of 4 Idaho students is arrested in Pennsylvania



    ​The suspect arrested in Pennsylvania has been charged with multiple counts of 1st degree murder.

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  • Pontius2000
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

    hi pontius
    this attack was totally like the bundy sorority attack. bundy entered a sorority house in the middle of the night attacking four girls while they slept killing one. and based on what we know about the suspect, hes a highly educated PHD student in criminology at nearby washington state...very similar to bundy. he even looks like him.

    itll be interesting to see what else we learn about this suspect. but it appears, he dosnt have a criminal record either. Also, will be
    interesting to see if he has any connection to the victims.
    We’ll agree to disagree on this. If you mean there are superficial similarities in the crimes, yes. As far as the motives and signatures, not at all. Bundy was very much a sex murderer and necrophiliac who, by the time of his final crimes, had an uncontrollable urge to kill. These current crimes were targeted crimes with no indication to this point that he was a sex murderer who couldn’t control himself. I think you could say Bundy was relatively intelligent, but more manipulative than intelligent. Some psychiatrists and investigators who actually knew Bundy have said that the idea that he was extremely intelligent is a total myth.

    as far as my amateur profiling, guess I’m gonna have to stick to my day job, though the details about this suspect haven’t been released yet.

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  • Damaso Marte
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    He followed two of the victims on Instagram. Unclear if he knew them personally or was just stalking potential victims on Instagram. Press conference in 15 mins, we might know soon.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Pontius2000 View Post

    I don’t know about the Gainesville Ripper case, but no this is definitely not like the Bundy case. The police have said from the beginning that this was a targeted attack and on that point, I totally agree. They made a lot of “half statements” of evidence. One of those half-statements is that the killer went in the backdoor (2nd floor) and out the front door (first floor). If that is true, then what I posted is undoubtedly true…he started on the 2nd floor and didn’t find his target, but DID find a threat -a relatively large male- who had to be eliminated. He then went upstairs and found and killed his target(s) and therefore left the two defenseless girls on the first floor alone, if he even knew they were there at all.

    another “half statement” is the implication- which has pretty much been verified by one of the parents- that one of the victims sustained more severe injuries than any of the others. If this is true, it would further point to this being a targeted attack.

    in being a targeted attack, I’ve seen many speculate it was an ex-boyfriend, or someone who had been slighted or insulted, or maybe even a road rage incident or drunken rage. Any of that is possible. But in my “amateur profiling”, I’ve also come to believe it’s a local nut who is obsessed with slasher movies and has targeted “college girls” like the slasher villains in the movies. In this case, he would likely be a survivalist/hunter and probably suffer from some sort of religious mania. I’ve also noted that a new Halloween movie premiered in theatres only about a week before the murders and that police should check the local theatres to see if anyone watched that movie an unusually high number of times.

    I agree this could very well be a “first crime” of a serial killer type. It seems to be “targeted”, but not necessarily in the way they are suggesting. I think it could be he “targeted” a blonde college girl living in a party house because he believes he’s doing God’s work like Michael Myers and NOT “targeted” her because he actually knew her.
    hi pontius
    this attack was totally like the bundy sorority attack. bundy entered a sorority house in the middle of the night attacking four girls while they slept killing one. and based on what we know about the suspect, hes a highly educated PHD student in criminology at nearby washington state...very similar to bundy. he even looks like him.

    itll be interesting to see what else we learn about this suspect. but it appears, he dosnt have a criminal record either. Also, will be
    interesting to see if he has any connection to the victims.
    Last edited by Abby Normal; 12-30-2022, 07:24 PM.

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  • Damaso Marte
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    According to court paperwork (required to take the suspect from one state to another) the suspect is a 28 year old graduate student in...wait for it...criminology.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Pontius2000 View Post

    I don’t know about the Gainesville Ripper case, but no this is definitely not like the Bundy case. The police have said from the beginning that this was a targeted attack and on that point, I totally agree. They made a lot of “half statements” of evidence. One of those half-statements is that the killer went in the backdoor (2nd floor) and out the front door (first floor). If that is true, then what I posted is undoubtedly true…he started on the 2nd floor and didn’t find his target, but DID find a threat -a relatively large male- who had to be eliminated. He then went upstairs and found and killed his target(s) and therefore left the two defenseless girls on the first floor alone, if he even knew they were there at all.

    another “half statement” is the implication- which has pretty much been verified by one of the parents- that one of the victims sustained more severe injuries than any of the others. If this is true, it would further point to this being a targeted attack.

    in being a targeted attack, I’ve seen many speculate it was an ex-boyfriend, or someone who had been slighted or insulted, or maybe even a road rage incident or drunken rage. Any of that is possible. But in my “amateur profiling”, I’ve also come to believe it’s a local nut who is obsessed with slasher movies and has targeted “college girls” like the slasher villains in the movies. In this case, he would likely be a survivalist/hunter and probably suffer from some sort of religious mania. I’ve also noted that a new Halloween movie premiered in theatres only about a week before the murders and that police should check the local theatres to see if anyone watched that movie an unusually high number of times.

    I agree this could very well be a “first crime” of a serial killer type. It seems to be “targeted”, but not necessarily in the way they are suggesting. I think it could be he “targeted” a blonde college girl living in a party house because he believes he’s doing God’s work like Michael Myers and NOT “targeted” her because he actually knew her.
    gotcha. well well find out soon, because theyve made an arrest.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by Damaso Marte View Post
    A 25-year old man has been arrested in Scranton, Pennsylvania (the home town of Joe Biden, some 2,500 miles away from Idaho) for the killing. The police will announce his name and other information at a press conference about 4 hours from now

    https://nypost.com/2022/12/30/suspec...daho-slayings/
    beat me to it. but heres another article. The man is a college student . but not at Idaho. Itll be interesting to see what his connection is to University of Idaho and the victims.

    Idaho murders: Suspect in custody in killings of 4 university students, law enforcement source says | Fox News

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  • Damaso Marte
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    A 25-year old man has been arrested in Scranton, Pennsylvania (the home town of Joe Biden, some 2,500 miles away from Idaho) for the killing. The police will announce his name and other information at a press conference about 4 hours from now

    Bryan Christopher Kohberger was taken into custody by police and the FBI around 3 a.m. Friday in Pennsylvania, according to reports.

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