Who Killed Julia Wallace? - New Evidence

[WallaceWackedHer]

It won’t surprise you to know that I see no major flaws in Wallace committing the murder alone. I just can’t see Wallace deciding on something so huge almost on a whim. I think that being the meticulous type that he was he’d have wanted more that 24 hours to have planned and executed the murder. He’d have wanted to think it through. To check and double check that he hadn’t made any blunders. The theory certainly isn’t impossible but I’d still rate it as unlikely.

It can seem that way based on a perception of William's personality, but for the actual evidence and details of the call it's extremely solid. The most probable, I think.

If Wallace acted so meticulously, I'd expect him to do a much better job of staging a crime scene and establishing an alibi, and definitely not leave his own jacket half burnt under Julia's body. What's meticulous about that? In fact if he did it, it's frankly pathetic on his part. Total "amateur hour".

[Herlock Sholmes]

Nah, they were both in bed when Mr. Cadwallader walked into their bedroom. Julia screamed. It's pretty funny really lmao.

So it looks to me like someone really could have possibly come in through the back without issue. Plus the book claiming Wallace said she didn't have to bolt the back door because the yard gate protected her.

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I don't like the call as a plan quite as much as I like an exploit of a prank call. Which on the surface if you didn't know the facts would seem unlikely, but with the facts specifically relating to timings, details of the call, and facts regarding the probable caller in Parry including statements he made both then and after (including the direction he was driving from which would go along Breck Road with Lily's just past that), is quite convincing... I tend to prefer that angle and I think it's likely the solution no matter who killed Julia.

Everything else has major holes...

Though it would be quite easy for Wallace to kill her himself, I know that's what you favour. It's been done even better before. In Israel some girl waited in a bathroom stall, dragged another girl in and absolutely MASSACRED her (like actual bloodbath - coincidentally using a raincoat as a dam to stop blood seeping out under the door). Then simply hopped into the next stall, changed clothes stuffing the blood soaked ones into her backpack, and walked out like nothing happened. She got away with it... An innocent man got convicted... She's only been caught because she bragged about it to many people and is legitimately nuts.

I also think Alan Close quite possibly lied completely about seeing Julia just to impress his fellow teenage friends, and got in too deep to come clean... We know for a 100% fact he wasn't on the Wallace's doorstep when the door opened and the milk was taken in. He was on the Johnston doorstep... His claim is he saw Julia when she brought the empty jugs back out. I think it's possible he saw NOBODY and made the whole thing up.

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That is my musings at present

It won’t surprise you to know that I see no major flaws in Wallace committing the murder alone. I just can’t see Wallace deciding on something so huge almost on a whim. I think that being the meticulous type that he was he’d have wanted more that 24 hours to have planned and executed the murder. He’d have wanted to think it through. To check and double check that he hadn’t made any blunders. The theory certainly isn’t impossible but I’d still rate it as unlikely.

[WallaceWackedHer]

I can’t remember the exact time of the Mr Cadwallader incident but the pubs did close earlier in those days? If he came in by the backdoor perhaps it was at a time before they had locked the door for the night? Maybe Julia had intended to lock the door after putting the cat out?

Nah, they were both in bed when Mr. Cadwallader walked into their bedroom. Julia screamed. It's pretty funny really lmao.

So it looks to me like someone really could have possibly come in through the back without issue. Plus the book claiming Wallace said she didn't have to bolt the back door because the yard gate protected her.

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I don't like the call as a plan quite as much as I like an exploit of a prank call. Which on the surface if you didn't know the facts would seem unlikely, but with the facts specifically relating to timings, details of the call, and facts regarding the probable caller in Parry including statements he made both then and after (including the direction he was driving from which would go along Breck Road with Lily's just past that), is quite convincing... I tend to prefer that angle and I think it's likely the solution no matter who killed Julia.

Everything else has major holes...

Though it would be quite easy for Wallace to kill her himself, I know that's what you favour. It's been done even better before. In Israel some girl waited in a bathroom stall, dragged another girl in and absolutely MASSACRED her (like actual bloodbath - coincidentally using a raincoat as a dam to stop blood seeping out under the door). Then simply hopped into the next stall, changed clothes stuffing the blood soaked ones into her backpack, and walked out like nothing happened. She got away with it... An innocent man got convicted... She's only been caught because she bragged about it to many people and is legitimately nuts.

I also think Alan Close quite possibly lied completely about seeing Julia just to impress his fellow teenage friends, and got in too deep to come clean... We know for a 100% fact he wasn't on the Wallace's doorstep when the door opened and the milk was taken in. He was on the Johnston doorstep... His claim is he saw Julia when she brought the empty jugs back out. I think it's possible he saw NOBODY and made the whole thing up.

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That is my musings at present

[Herlock Sholmes]

Maybe. I can track the wills (where her dad's money went and follow it down - albeit having some difficulty finding the other wills as the names are more common with no middle name).

I doubt it will be important but you never know.

I'd be more interested in following the money AFTER Julia married William and seeing how it drained so hard and fast. Marriage of convenience given heavy medical debts perhaps? That could be another reason for alienation if the family disapproved of Wallace and could see what he was doing.
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Btw here's something else bugging me. Both doors have bolts. But drunk mr. Cadwallader was able to walk into their home in the middle of the night and go up to their bedroom. So did they not ever bolt the back door?

William said - it's claimed in one of these books - she wouldn't bolt the back door because the gate would protect her. Ofc this is bad logic if they really believed that given the low walls which the window cleaners easily scaled while doing their rounds on that very day. Makes it seriously easy for someone to come in the back while Julia's in the front parlour.

I can’t remember the exact time of the Mr Cadwallader incident but the pubs did close earlier in those days? If he came in by the backdoor perhaps it was at a time before they had locked the door for the night? Maybe Julia had intended to lock the door after putting the cat out?

[WallaceWackedHer]

Is it possible that she might have inherited the house from a more distant family member? Someone that we haven’t heard of? It’s probably something that we’ll never know.

Maybe. I can track the wills (where her dad's money went and follow it down - albeit having some difficulty finding the other wills as the names are more common with no middle name).

I doubt it will be important but you never know.

I'd be more interested in following the money AFTER Julia married William and seeing how it drained so hard and fast. Marriage of convenience given heavy medical debts perhaps? That could be another reason for alienation if the family disapproved of Wallace and could see what he was doing.
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Btw here's something else bugging me. Both doors have bolts. But drunk mr. Cadwallader was able to walk into their home in the middle of the night and go up to their bedroom. So did they not ever bolt the back door?

William said - it's claimed in one of these books - she wouldn't bolt the back door because the gate would protect her. Ofc this is bad logic if they really believed that given the low walls which the window cleaners easily scaled while doing their rounds on that very day. Makes it seriously easy for someone to come in the back while Julia's in the front parlour.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Is it possible that she might have inherited the house from a more distant family member? Someone that we haven’t heard of? It’s probably something that we’ll never know.

[WallaceWackedHer]

Great web site HS. (I’ve put it into favourites). So pre-NHS a ladies league to decide who paid for what in health care eh ?. Still I would think if Julia was renting out any portion of the house to help with finances , it would cover any medical/dental concerns also. It is a conundrum, how she wound up in lowly Wolverton .

William had really serious operations and so on. I don't know if he was in debt or exactly what went on with financing for his illness.

I wonder if he played toyboy to Julia to get at her money if he was in serious trouble. At the end of his life they barely had any money at all, I don't know if they could even afford whatever William needed at that time.

I know both William's father and mother died in an infirmary not a proper hospital which may suggest financial difficulty. Though William's dad also owned one of those nice homes (just not QUITE as nice as Julia's but very similar), and it was there the Wallace family lived.

I know Julia moved from Dragon Parade which was also very nice housing. I think she was also living in that one alone too?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Great web site HS. (I’ve put it into favourites). So pre-NHS a ladies league to decide who paid for what in health care eh ?. Still I would think if Julia was renting out any portion of the house to help with finances , it would cover any medical/dental concerns also. It is a conundrum, how she wound up in lowly Wolverton .

Hi Moste,

Id never heard of these Almoners either. I certainly agree with you (and WWH) that it would be interesting to know how she got be living in such a large house?

[moste]

No NHS until 1948 WWH

https://www.historyextra.com/period/...althcare-free/

Great web site HS. (I’ve put it into favourites). So pre-NHS a ladies league to decide who paid for what in health care eh ?. Still I would think if Julia was renting out any portion of the house to help with finances , it would cover any medical/dental concerns also. It is a conundrum, how she wound up in lowly Wolverton .

[moste]

This might clarify matters, Moste. Said house is indicated by red arrow...

That’s the one! Fabulous as terraced houses go . Thanks for that SH.

[Sherlock Houses]

Well, I tried to copy and paste a frontal photograph of the house ,compliments of ‘google earth’ . 11,St. Mary’s avenue ,Harrogate. But, I’m not too smart at that kind of thing . It’s a really nice property even now. If she owned it outright she was in great shape financially, before William hove into view!

This might clarify matters, Moste. Said house is indicated by red arrow...

[Herlock Sholmes]

Yup, that's why I'm curious to see how she ended up with it. I'm not sure I'm able to find the other wills though. I plugged the names into the government website but didn't have much luck.

It probably isn't important, but there are ideas someone from her past carried out this crime, so it's worth a look to see if anyone got shafted in the wills etc. which might leave them with a grudge... Julia is certainly estranged so it's worth a snoop.

In fact if Julia was in debt to someone, she herself might have directed that person to take cash from the box promising she'd pay the rest some other time.

Also it'd be interesting to figure out how/why they LOST the money. Selling that grand home and moving to a poorhouse in Liverpool? And they end up with only a couple hundred in their bank account between them when Julia died? Something doesn't really add up there (it's not like William was super poor or w.e. himself - although did they have public healthcare back then? If not perhaps his kidney problems rinsed his wealth)... Shedding light on that could potentially uncover a motive for William.

No NHS until 1948 WWH

https://www.historyextra.com/period/20th-century/nhs-history-pay-healthcare-free/

[Sherlock Houses]

Does anyone know how long Gordon Parry had been in the army when he was sentenced to three months hard labour in September 1934 for taking away a vehicle without the owner's consent ?

[WallaceWackedHer]

Well, I tried to copy and paste a frontal photograph of the house ,compliments of ‘google earth’ . 11,St. Mary’s avenue ,Harrogate. But, I’m not too smart at that kind of thing . It’s a really nice property even now. If she owned it outright she was in great shape financially, before William hove into view!

Yup, that's why I'm curious to see how she ended up with it. I'm not sure I'm able to find the other wills though. I plugged the names into the government website but didn't have much luck.

It probably isn't important, but there are ideas someone from her past carried out this crime, so it's worth a look to see if anyone got shafted in the wills etc. which might leave them with a grudge... Julia is certainly estranged so it's worth a snoop.

In fact if Julia was in debt to someone, she herself might have directed that person to take cash from the box promising she'd pay the rest some other time.

Also it'd be interesting to figure out how/why they LOST the money. Selling that grand home and moving to a poorhouse in Liverpool? And they end up with only a couple hundred in their bank account between them when Julia died? Something doesn't really add up there (it's not like William was super poor or w.e. himself - although did they have public healthcare back then? If not perhaps his kidney problems rinsed his wealth)... Shedding light on that could potentially uncover a motive for William.

[Al Bundy's Eyes]

It should be this one, house is called Rosedene.