Ufology

[louisa]

I totally agree with the last two posts.

However, the question remains. If even only one per cent of all the millions of eye witness accounts cannot possibly be explained away by ANY scientific means (including optical illusions), then that one per cent represents hundreds of incredibly compelling eye witness accounts.

[niko]

How about this !

Hi everyone, how about this, I have just been reading about Lady Diana, something about a letter she wrote ten month's before her fatal accident stateing that she was going to die in a car crash.

In the same article I came across this, apparently said by H.R.H The Queen,
" There are power's at work in this country about which we have no knowledge ". What " POWERS " did she mean ?. An " AN ALIEN POWER " or maybe the secret service or The Establishment or something. ! WOW ! for the Queen not to know whats happening in her Country must be some powerful " POWER " all the best, Agur.

[Graham]

Couple of things, not really relevant, but maybe of interest:

1] I used to work for a company in Wiltshire, and one of the factory workers said he knew at least one person who cut crop-circles so that gullible tourists could gape at them. They stopped only when a local farmer got nasty with them.

2] Re: 'The Holy Blood And The Holy Grail', someone I knew went on a pilgrimage to some holy place near Montsegur, where he was told that Sauniere's fortune came from blackmailing a local dignitary who was up to no good and who Sauniere caught napping. Nice story, but a darn sight more feasible than the one that claims he was being paid by the Vatican to keep his trap shut.

UFO's? Nah....

Graham

[Steven Russell]

I totally agree with the last two posts.

However, the question remains. If even only one per cent of all the millions of eye witness accounts cannot possibly be explained away by ANY scientific means (including optical illusions), then that one per cent represents hundreds of incredibly compelling eye witness accounts.

Hello, Louisa.
Please forgive me for being pedantic (I can't help myself) but one percent of millions is tens of thousands.

Best wishes,
Steve.

[Robert]

It's my belief these putative spaceship sightings have nothing to do with aliens conquering us, befriending us or finding out about us. They are probably just rounding us as part of the Formula 1 fifteen hundred light years race.

[Archaic]

Powers That Be

In the same article I came across this, apparently said by H.R.H The Queen,
" There are power's at work in this country about which we have no knowledge ". What " POWERS " did she mean ?. An " AN ALIEN POWER " or maybe the secret service or The Establishment or something. ! WOW ! for the Queen not to know whats happening in her Country must be some powerful " POWER " all the best, Agur.

Hi Agur.

I sure hope she didn't mean Alien Powers! I'm not a big fan of shape-shifting reptilian humanoids... They're kind of creepy.

There's another possibility. Maybe she meant 'Powers' as in 'Dominions', 'Virtues' and 'Powers' from the hierarchy of Angels? They're in the second Sphere of Heaven.

The Powers are said to be "the bearers of conscience and the keepers of history."

Much nicer than Reptilians if you ask me.

Cheers,
Archaic

[Phil H]

As I recall, the Queen's alleged statement (which seems unlikely) was quoted by Paul Burrell (Princess Diana's former butler), who was said to have had a long audience with HM.

She was, in context, referring to the media and (by inference) people like Murdoch, who use the media to manipulate public opinion perhaps in "republican" ways, but certainly for their own ends.

On balance, and given that Burrell was later discredited for effectively perhuring himself, the quote should (IMHO) be given no credence whatsoever. But even if it is the context was clearly around politics and the press and not UFOs!!

Phil

[Scorpio]

Hello, Louisa.
Please forgive me for being pedantic (I can't help myself) but one percent of millions is tens of thousands.

Best wishes,
Steve.

Can we consider some eyewitness statements better than others;should only professionals ( preferably pilots or aerospace personnel ) or will anyone do? ( town drunks, politicians, sectioned citizens )?

[Steven Russell]

Can we consider some eyewitness statements better than others;should only professionals ( preferably pilots or aerospace personnel ) or will anyone do? ( town drunks, politicians, sectioned citizens )?

I think we should consider some statements better than others. Pilots etc. are used to looking at the skies so should be more familiar with what is up there e.g. balloons, optical illusions, and meteorological phenomena.

Plus, in a slightly more cynical vein, we should consider the circumstances of the person making the statement. Do they want to make a few bucks and have five minutes on Jerry Springer, or are they risking derision and possibly their careers by coming forward?

Best wishes,
Steve.

[sdreid]

I've had 5 UFO sightings plus a missing time incident. I also saw something that might have been either a chupacabra or a baby bigfoot.

[Scorpio]

I think we should consider some statements better than others. Pilots etc. are used to looking at the skies so should be more familiar with what is up there e.g. balloons, optical illusions, and meteorological phenomena.

Plus, in a slightly more cynical vein, we should consider the circumstances of the person making the statement. Do they want to make a few bucks and have five minutes on Jerry Springer, or are they risking derision and possibly their careers by coming forward?

Best wishes,
Steve.

The Captain of JAL1628, a man of 29 years experience, risked derision and his career in civil aviation by making fanciful UFO claims. These claims were not validated by the remaining flight crew, so it looks like a case of panic & confirmation bias in this case; the Captain interpreted the phenomena, the lights that the other crew members recalled, as physical,intelligently controlled objects.

[Scorpio]

A curious 900 year old skull that has been christened ' Starchild ', beacause of its odd appearance and supposed extraterrestrial ancestry, has been subjected to partial DNA analysis. 265 intact basepairs have been identified as human and 342 have not. Attempts to identify the 3 billion base pairs in the entire Genome are ongoing. Can anyone with a knowledge of biology shed some light?; can naturally occuring radiation account for the strange results?.

[sdreid]

Jimmy Carter saw a flying saucer but, then again, he also claimed that he was attacked by a killer bunny.

[Scorpio]

We can thank journalists for flying saucers, because it was their misreporting that created them.
Any thoughts on the strange lights above lake Erie, anyone?.
There is some good footage on you tube.

[Scorpio]

The supposed Alien prequel " Prometheus " is based upon clues to a extraterrestrial intervention on this planet provided by Neolithic cave art depicting a identifiable star system. The writers of Prometheus have obviously taken this idea from the Dogon people of Mali, West Africa. Modern scientists interpreting Dogon sources have identified Sirius B, a small and very dense star,orbiting Sirius A, a very bright star in our own night skies, as the location of a visiting Alien species. A case of one culture,(mis)interpreting another?.