Diana Spencer

[Bob Hinton]

Ah Bob, nice of you to just ignore my posts like they never existed.

To me the ramblings of a rabid anti Royalist like you don't!

[babybird67]

of course she was Bob

of course she was.

[Ally]

Ah Bob, nice of you to just ignore my posts like they never existed. I can understand how you'd not want to answer them though.

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She was extremely predatory and if she took a fancy to a man she grabbed him – whether he was married or not was immaterial. I spoke to one person who knew her very, very well and he described her as ‘a pit viper on heat’.

Predatory viper who just grabbed any man she wanted?! Those poooor men. Forced as they were into affairs and adultery without any choice, raped by the vicious vagina of this woman, their actions entirely beyond their control as their penis was just hurled unwillingly into her clutches.

Her infidelities were legion and frequent, both before and during her marriage to Charles.

And Charles of course was a virgin before marriage and remained faithful for all the days of their wedded bliss.

[Bob Hinton]

Really?

The last thing Diana was was naive. She was the arch manipulator. She controlled her image through blackmailing the press and flew into a rage if they didn’t follow suit.

When she was discovered having an affair with a surgeon in London, she told the press that if they held off she would give them a much better story – and she gave them the famous ‘Diana being caring at an operation’ nonsense.

She was extremely predatory and if she took a fancy to a man she grabbed him – whether he was married or not was immaterial. I spoke to one person who knew her very, very well and he described her as ‘a pit viper on heat’.

Her infidelities were legion and frequent, both before and during her marriage to Charles.

[babybird67]

Did someone force Charles to propose to her?



Apparently Prince Philip ordered him to propose after the newspapers decided that she was 'the one' after the X-Ray Specs contre jour photo of her holding a small child entranced the nation.

From what I've read and seen on television she seems to me to have been mentally disturbed and a highly devious and manipulative person.

And yet telling someone to marry someone else without love/feigning love, and the other person actually doing that and seeing no problem with it, is not at all manipulative or devious. And of course we all know how mentally well the Royal family is.

I have no doubt Diana had mental health issues but she was a very young girl when that family took her and used her for its own ends regardless of her welfare or feelings. How do you think that contributed to her mental health throughout her lifetime?

There are few things I call evil, but taking a young woman and manipulating her into a marriage when you KNOW you love someone else, and you systematically continue with that deception throughout the marriage, is evil, in my opinion.

Of course both Charles and Diana had faults. I think Charles, and his family, need to bear the brunt of the blame though. They did everything with the foreknowledge of knowing they were using her. Her biggest crime was naivete.

[Stephen Thomas]

Did someone force Charles to propose to her?

while he was in love with someone else?

Apparently Prince Philip ordered him to propose after the newspapers decided that she was 'the one' after the X-Ray Specs contre jour photo of her holding a small child entranced the nation.

From what I've read and seen on television she seems to me to have been mentally disturbed and a highly devious and manipulative person.

[Hatchett]

Hi Bob,

Because I don't think he would like being classed as part of a "pretty shabby lot!"

Do you?

Best wishes.

[Bob Hinton]

Really?

Hello Bob,

I wonder what Elton John would think of your view on Diana's friends.

Best wishes.

And I should care what Reggie Dwight thinks about my views on Diana's friends for why?

[The Grave Maurice]

Perhaps Sir Reg could write a new song about Barry: "Vandal in the Wind".

[Ally]

Just look at how so many of her friends couldn’t wait to cash in on her fame once she was dead. How many books have been written about her by people who professed friendship? A person can be judged by their friends and Diana seemed to have had a pretty shabby lot.

Just out of curiosity, is this poor valet you are referring to Stephen Barry? Because that is the only valet of Charles by name I can locate, you know, the one who wrote the book: Royal Service: My Twelve Years as Valet to Prince Charles.

[Hatchett]

Hello Bob,

I wonder what Elton John would think of your view on Diana's friends.

Best wishes.

[babybird67]

did someone force Charles to propose to her?

while he was in love with someone else?

[Ally]

It wasn’t quite as simple as that. Diana made sure that Charles was distanced from all of his friends and supporters whilst surrounding herself with a load of so called ‘friends’ and sycophants.

Oh what a crock of crap. Diana "made sure"? So, what, is Charles actually mentally retarded and incapable of making a decision or standing up for himself? Is he so easily led by his nose that's he's incapable of maintaining friendships without his wife's approval? Seems kind of contradictory to the affair he managed to maintain all the while he was married. So what, he managed to keep banging some chick despite his wife's "making sure he was distanced from all his friends" but he couldn't keep a valet and his poker buddies around? Please. What a crock.

She was determined that any spotlight was only going to shine on her.
It wasn’t her household – it was the household of the Prince of Wales. If Charles had put his foot down, how many people would have rushed into print accusing him of being a bully?

Ah I see.. so he didn't want to look like a bully, just a cheating bastard with dreams of being a tampon. Yeah..I can see how public opinion really swayed his decisions in his marriage. Again, I say, please.

You don't get to blame Diana for the fact that Charles was apparently a complete sap and allowed her to fire his valet. He had the option of hiring the man back. Neither one of them was a saint, but they are BOTH equally responsible for what occurred in their marriage. Charles was not some passive, helpless victim, and quite frankly if he was, do you really want that kind of a loser as the future head of your country? What a pathetic, hapless moron you paint him to be.

[Bob Hinton]

LOL..so Charles was "devastated" when he found out Diana had fired his valet? SO what, he sat on his hands and wept and wailed? It never occurred to him to ..oh I don't know...hire the man back and tell Diana to keep her hands off his personal staff?

I don't think Diana was some paragon or a saint but attempting to make her out to be a villain for running her household how she wished and Charles apparently not having a spine is kind of a weak argument.

It wasn’t quite as simple as that. Diana made sure that Charles was distanced from all of his friends and supporters whilst surrounding herself with a load of so called ‘friends’ and sycophants.

She was determined that any spotlight was only going to shine on her.
It wasn’t her household – it was the household of the Prince of Wales. If Charles had put his foot down, how many people would have rushed into print accusing him of being a bully?

Just look at how so many of her friends couldn’t wait to cash in on her fame once she was dead. How many books have been written about her by people who professed friendship? A person can be judged by their friends and Diana seemed to have had a pretty shabby lot.

[Adam Went]

The thing is that whenever there is a huge, notorious event like that, there will be conspiracy theoriest to go along with it - just last night I was watching a docco about some conspiracy theories regarding 9/11 being an inside job. That's just to name one of hundreds of examples throughout history.

Other posters are spot on - alcohol, plus high powered car which is speeding = disaster waiting to happen. But most people just don't get the message about road safety and never will unless they are personally affected by it. Every single day I see dozens of people stupidly breaking road rules, some of them with small children in the back and what not - it beggars belief. But I won't rant here.

Having said all of that, it would be interesting to know whatever became of the Fiat...

Cheers,
Adam.