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For what it's worth, I believe Jesus to be an historical person. He was a mystic who underwent a profound experience of spiritual enlightenment which naturally caused many to flock to his cause. The Jews were fearful that the growing popularity of this rabble-rouser might draw the ire of Rome and therefore handed him over to Pilate, whereupon he had a mock trial and was sentenced to death. Pilate's portrayal as a reluctant executioner giving into the crowd was clearly a work of fiction. Pilate reputedly had no qualms about sending Jewish rebels to their deaths whether they were guilty or not.
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Jesus & Mary ~ Sanhedrin records
You could have a point Harry with Pilate, the fact is in the Sanhedrin under record 43, there is a record of an actual Jesus and a mother named Mary, whom some of the Jews claimed was a magician and born out of wedlock to a slovenly mother named Mary.
Pilate was under pressure by Cesar in Rome to maintain peace with the Jews, even though the Romans heavily oppressed the Jews with taxation and the Jews were not happy with pagan accepting king Herod whom the Romans had placed in Judea as king of the Jews. Personally i think the Romans favored Herod because he was marvelous and useful as an architect, very talented in that area, Romans were fond of building, ordering and taking control as they thought themselves as the only ones civilized, everyone else being barbarians to the Romans. many Jews of that time of king Herod were unhappy with his paganized temples, the main complaint being the famous * Aqueduct * from the Romans that the Jews didn't have enough money to pay for and were unhappy, after all that was what the Romans bleated on about, but when you take a look at all the taxation, Jews amongst other people were stopped on the streets, on the spot and charged for carrying this scroll, this religious item and that item, it wouldn't surprise me if mistakes were made and people were getting charged twice or more for carrying the same item, if that happened then being disgruntled would certainly follow, however even without those kinds of mistakes happening, it was not nice being so heavily taxed for everything carried. I mean it is rather crafty to be making money out of other peoples religion now isn't it, rather than just your own pagan one as was regarded by monotheism at the time, and at that time the Jews were a patriarchal system, not a matriarchal system as it was previously. But as the Jews would have it the biblical Jesus was a different Jesus and a different mother to that of number 43 of the Sanhedrin record, that this Mary would not have given birth to Jesus out of wedlock, so the Jews would claim. As they say, if that Mary had given birth out of wedlock she would have been stoned as a punishment. Marriage for Jews at that time was about ownership of a female, if she had grounds for a divorce but the husband didn't she lost and he won because he was a male, indeed marriage & divorce was only for the men to decide not the females, females had to suffer if that was the case with the men in her community and of course her husband. How thoroughly egotistical and repugnant i find that one! So the Jesus of the bible is probably not the same Jesus of 43 of the Sanhedrin. Although the Jews cried out for a Jesus to be crucified, the Romans dealt with it, because there isn't a proper procedure that the Sanhedrin regarded of the biblical Jesus, the Crucifixion mentioned in the bible was done in haste and not by Jewish standards of a time period by the Sanhedrin methods, so probably between the romanised bible and the Jews, they are probably not talking about the same Jesus.
personally i think the biblical Jesus was a Jesus that was perhaps different to both Jew and roman after all. It just kind of got lost in translation way back in history.
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Ancient Egyptian ~ Soul
There were 5 components within the Ancient religious concepts of Egypt and the human soul, here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient...pt_of_the_soul
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Hindi ~ Bine
Bine meaning in Hindi : Get meaning and translation of Bine in Hindi language with grammar,antonyms,synonyms and sentence usages by ShabdKhoj. Know answer of question : what is meaning of Bine in Hindi? Bine ka matalab hindi me kya hai (Bine का हिंदी में मतलब ). Bine meaning in Hindi (हिन्दी मे मीनिंग ) is बिनेट करना.English definition of Bine : European twining plant whose flowers are used chiefly to flavor malt liquors; cultivated in America
interesting that Bine is Hindi and also that Ka is Ancient Egyptian especially with what Michael Tellinger has found in Africa, the oldest civilization known yet to man, first dated around 75,000 years old, now more recently dated to 285,000 years old, which he claims is of the ancient egyptians and further on down from those circles is the hindi remnants from the vedas and hindusm aged at 50,000 years old, both not that far apart and in Africa.
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Worship
It would indeed be a confused issue to regard that worship of a Jesus in Christendom is the only worship allowed, as in worship of one god in Jesus, in view of the early Christians practicing donkey worship , with 2nd century archaeology evidence of the alexamenos graffito, here :
The Donkey is from the horse family, such as donkey, pony, horse. Horse worship was with Hindi and Hinduism and held a ceremony as symbolic between vedic queens and the horse.
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Adam's Calendar, 285,000 years old
Michael Tellinger, Adam's Calendar : http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/su...annunaki35.htm
and this one from Andrew Collins : http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/ar...sa_4_adams.htm
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religions ~ ancient animal worship
The Alexamenos graffito (also called the graffito blasfemo ) was first discovered in 1857 inscribed on a plaster wall in a building called ...
Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.
King Solomon worshipped the Goddess Asherah, originally it was a sacred tree, then feminized to a Goddess. King Solomon was a Jewish King, the son of King David, Jesus was Royal and of the line of King David.
Ancient Egyptian Tree Goddesses :
Caananite / hebrew / Israelite : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADikz5rAjJU
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Mikvah ~ Jewish Ritual bath
Mikvah ( Jewish Ritual bath ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODyAvbCHLxo
Mikvah is the same ritual baths that the Ancient Egyptian priests used in the Ancient Egyptian Religion, can't find that link now on the internet, but archaeologists found that it was the exact same design of a ritual bath of the ancient egyptian priests that the Jewish religion calls a Mikvah.
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Jesus as St Issa to India
There is a claim regarding Jesus missing years from the bible / biblos that the biblical Jesus visited Egypt and India, which the church of rome will regard as an Apocrypha ( as if they always told you the truth anyway! yeah for sure they did ). India regards the biblical Jesus as St Issa .
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Last edited by Shelley; 08-15-2014, 04:55 PM.
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Originally posted by GUT View PostWhat have all these links got to do with the Shroud of Turin?
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