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  • #31
    Originally posted by DVV View Post
    Hi Madam Red,

    Well, as casebookers, we all pay attention to a killer.
    I read books about the Manson Family, watch documentaries, then you think I disrespect the victims ?
    Don't you watch true-crimes documentaries, don't you read books about?
    That is also paying attention.

    Would Mary Kelly be happy to see us watching her pic ?

    I understand that the Family of the victims may resent all that... But here again, the murderers are to be blamed, nobody else.

    Amitiés,
    David
    I'm sorry, you misunderstand me.

    It's one thing to study the case. In fact, I would encourage studying it, since it could prevent a similiar crime from occuring in the future.

    What I meant, however, is that Charles Manson enjoys a celebrity status in prison. He even gets fanmail from some people. I've seen fan pages for him on Facebook and items he onced own go for thousands. Unless I'm mistaken, he probably knows about most of this. Sending him letters could inflame his ego even more.
    "You want to take revenge for my murdered sister? Sister would definitely have not ... we would not have wanted you to be like this."

    ~ Angelina Durless

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    • #32
      Hi Madam Red,

      I'm afraid it's a bit late to ignore Manson.

      Amitiés,
      David

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      • #33
        Come now! Just because these people have murdered others, doesn't mean that haven't become good blokes in the meantime. Obviously they aren't crazy or they would have been put in mental hospitals. They're just like you and I, really... aside from the uniform and numbers, I mean.
        Let Doris write to them. Maybe it will comfort them.

        Mike
        huh?

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        • #34
          Hi Mike,

          Honestly, they don't deserve comfort, especially Sutcliffe.

          Yours truly
          Washington Irving:

          "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

          Stratford-on-Avon

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          • #35
            Corey,

            The bait worked!

            Mike
            huh?

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            • #36
              Hello The Good Michael!

              Well, I saw a documentary about The Son Of Sam a few months ago.

              He's become a trustworthy person in prison, being of valuable help to the prisoners, who will be free to go etc.

              But the problem is; the authorities are afraid, that he cannot adapt to the life outside bars...

              All the best
              Jukka
              "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

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              • #37
                Jukka,

                None of these guys are trustworthy. Sociopaths can do what ever it takes; bide their time for years if necessary, in order to get what they want. I knew one once that married 4 times, each time convincing his wives that they were useless without him and that he was entitled to everything his drug-abusing, alcohol-chugging self wanted. He fooled lawyers, judges and family members for 30 years. He's still doing it, though his health is failing.

                Mike
                huh?

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                • #38
                  Hello The Good Michael!

                  Yes, I know. I meant, that he has been trustworthy behind bars!

                  Well, Jeff McDonald of the Fatal Vision fame still manages to convince people about the truthfulness of his hippie-blah-blah, despite the DNA samples have proven his guilt!

                  All the best
                  Jukka
                  "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

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                  • #39
                    Doris, on your noting that Charles Manson never actually killed anyone- maybe not, but he did slice off Bobby Hinman's ear with a sword, shoot and wound a black gang member and was the first to confront the LaBiancas and tie them up, telling them it was a robbery and that they wouldn't be hurt. It can not be said that he doesn't have any blood on his hands.

                    If you're into corresponding with such types, try Alfonso Rodriguez, Jr., who is on federal death row in Tera Haute, Indiana for the kidnap, rape and murder of a college girl named Dru Sjodin who he abducted in Grand Forks, North Dakota and transported her across the state line to Crookston, Minnesota before killing her, making it a federal case elligible for the death penalty, in November 2003. Rodriguez was a habitual sex offender in his 50s who had just finished a 23-year sentence for rape six months earlier. It was rumored that he'd become so comfortable in prison he didn't want to leave, and that he told a fellow inmate he would be sure that "the next one won't make it," so that he would be sure to be coming back. Neither of the states involved have the death pentalty, but he apparently didn't realize he would be making it a federal case by crossing the state line. I believe he would have become a serial killer if he hadn't been quickly caught. The maddening thing about him is that although he apprently did this in an attempt to be sent back to prison, he still pled not guilty and swore he didn't do it. The criminal mind is a mystery. I encourage you, Doris, to correspond with him just out of curiosity to see if he actually admits what he did now, and because I was personally involved in the search for Dru Sjodin before her body was found (she was beneath snow for five months) and it turned out that I passed by only 70 yards from her. That'll be with me forever.

                    Finally, there was a spirited exchange here many months ago about Sutcliffe when it was reported that he was being considered for release. I'm pleased to see that it has not happened and that there is such a consensus against it ever happening. Just go and read the descriptions of exactly what he did to his victims. These people must NEVER be set free. To even consider it is insane.

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                    • #40
                      Hi Kensei,

                      You're right about Manson, and can add the murder of Shorty Shea, in which he is directly implicated.

                      Amitiés,
                      David

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                      • #41
                        Hi Jukka,

                        Originally posted by j.r-ahde View Post
                        But the problem is; the authorities are afraid, that he cannot adapt to the life outside bars...
                        Jukka
                        "The truth is in the gas chamber."
                        Charles Manson

                        Amitiés,
                        David

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