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  • #16
    Originally posted by Madam Red View Post
    If you want a letter from a famous person, why not write to someone like Margaret Thatcher ?
    Isn't that even more chilling ?

    Amitiés,
    David

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    • #17
      Originally posted by doris View Post
      I have been reading about Sutcliffe of late, a few days ago I wrote to him and to all the other living serial killers whose address I easily found.

      Iam particularly hopeful Nilson and Charlie Manson write back.
      I remeber the Nilson business at the time, and Manson is such a huge 60s cultural icon.

      The only address I couldnt easily find was rose west.

      doris

      if anyone is interested most of them can be found here-

      http://www.members.tripod.com/~Seria...addresses.html

      sutcliffe is apparently very manipulative especially with women who correspond with him.so be careful.

      He wont ever come out,and if he does the Bradford City soccer hooligan mob have vowed to publicly hang him.And trust me id help them.

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      • #18
        Hi Ian,

        that Doris is a girl is another minor JtR myth, mind you.

        Amitiés,
        David

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        • #19
          Doris, I have to echo some of the sentiments that have already appeared here. Be careful! I worked closely with a number of murderers over a period of 5 years. They were all very close to their release and where most were very institutionalised there were a number who were hugely manipulative (and actually quite scary)
          The manipulative ones, had had years to refine how to play the system and could really get inside peoples heads.
          Again, please be careful.
          Ali
          http://www.taraforum.com/

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          • #20
            Hi Doris,

            I would never count a serial killer amung those with fame. More like infamy. Only the sick and sadistic think of them in a shining light.

            Like others have said, be careful.

            If your not doing this for research, I would find no reason needed to make contact with them.

            Yours truly
            Washington Irving:

            "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

            Stratford-on-Avon

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            • #21
              Yes, take care in case Fu Manchu writes back.
              Remember how Sir Crichton died.

              Amitiés,
              David

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              • #22
                Why thank you for your entirely misplaced concern,however Iam no callow youth but a sensible grown-up of some thrity-five summers, and the day a letter harms me Ill be jolly suprised.

                And I know that Thatcher and Robbie Williams are evil, but I doubt a missive from them would give me the same frisson as a comunication from manson et al.

                doris
                ..."(this is my literary discovery and is copyright protected)"...

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by doris View Post
                  Why thank you for your entirely misplaced concern,however Iam no callow youth but a sensible grown-up of some thrity-five summers, and the day a letter harms me Ill be jolly suprised.

                  And I know that Thatcher and Robbie Williams are evil, but I doubt a missive from them would give me the same frisson as a comunication from manson et al.

                  doris
                  What does age have to do with anything?

                  These men are masterful manipulators. Get too close and they can screw you up mentally. Which is why our concern isn't misplaced.

                  Why do you want to talk to Manson, anyhow? He's a sick, sick man who loves attention. Respect the victims by not paying him any.
                  "You want to take revenge for my murdered sister? Sister would definitely have not ... we would not have wanted you to be like this."

                  ~ Angelina Durless

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                  • #24
                    Hi Doris,
                    I agree, age has nothing to do with this. Just look at the age of these monsters befallen victims?

                    Age, no, age is only a circumstance. I am just saying, they are there for a reason, and these kind of things feed them. Don't give them what they want, attention, unless its for research. I am glad to say that I haven't had to speak to a killer.

                    Really, age doesn't matter, just your mind. If you get pleasyure out of speaking to monsters, do so, by all means, but be careful.

                    Yours truly
                    Washington Irving:

                    "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                    Stratford-on-Avon

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                    • #25
                      Hi Doris,

                      I personally fail to see why it would be risky to write a letter to a killer in prison.
                      Anyway, it's up to you.

                      Regarding the Manson case, I must say I'd be pleased to have a talk with any Family member, not only Manson. Not that I hold them in esteem, but because I can't deny some fascination for their story.

                      From what I've read from those who have interviewed serial killers, it seems that the more you know the case, the more they will be willing to talk.

                      Amitiés,
                      David

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Madam Red View Post
                        What does age have to do with anything?

                        These men are masterful manipulators. Get too close and they can screw you up mentally. Which is why our concern isn't misplaced.

                        Why do you want to talk to Manson, anyhow? He's a sick, sick man who loves attention. Respect the victims by not paying him any.
                        I didn't want you to think that I was an impressionable youngster.

                        However, you think that a person, of any age, can come to some harm by simply opening an envelope and reading the contents if it comes from Charles Manson. Fair enough.

                        Mind you, am I wrong or did he not actually kill anyone?

                        No mater either way, I thank you for your concern.

                        doris
                        ..."(this is my literary discovery and is copyright protected)"...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DVV View Post
                          Hi Doris,

                          I personally fail to see why it would be risky to write a letter to a killer in prison.
                          Anyway, it's up to you.

                          Regarding the Manson case, I must say I'd be pleased to have a talk with any Family member, not only Manson. Not that I hold them in esteem, but because I can't deny some fascination for their story.

                          From what I've read from those who have interviewed serial killers, it seems that the more you know the case, the more they will be willing to talk.

                          Amitiés,
                          David

                          Thanks David.

                          At least you seem to realise that they are fascinating.

                          doris
                          ..."(this is my literary discovery and is copyright protected)"...

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Madam Red View Post
                            Why do you want to talk to Manson, anyhow? He's a sick, sick man who loves attention. Respect the victims by not paying him any.
                            Hi Madam Red,

                            Well, as casebookers, we all pay attention to a killer.
                            I read books about the Manson Family, watch documentaries, then you think I disrespect the victims ?
                            Don't you watch true-crimes documentaries, don't you read books about?
                            That is also paying attention.

                            Would Mary Kelly be happy to see us watching her pic ?

                            I understand that the Family of the victims may resent all that... But here again, the murderers are to be blamed, nobody else.

                            Amitiés,
                            David

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by doris View Post

                              At least you seem to realise that they are fascinating.

                              doris
                              Just a few of them, in fact.
                              I'm a man of taste and have read De Quincey.

                              Amitiés,
                              David

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                              • #30
                                Back to the thread.

                                It's about Sutcliffe ?

                                I'd never write to this fellow.

                                Amitiés,
                                David

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