Julie Wallace

[louisa]

If I was trying to disguise my voice then I'd probably sound elderly too.

Does anyone know or suspect, in a nutshell, what the motive for the killing was?

[sdreid]

At the Trial Club Captain Beattie slightly diverted from what what was said in his statement (and that evidence he gave at the Committal) to the actual evidence at the trial. At the Trial Beattie said that the voice he heard on the telephone was strong and gruff. At the committal he said it was strong and confident. Quite trivial but I suppose the Prosecution would deem that a 'gruff' voice could point to the possibility of the voice being disguised, which Beattie completely dismissed.

At least three people heard the voice. How did Harley and the phone operator describe the voice in detail? I believe Ms. Harley described it as elderly. Do we know the name of the phone operator?

[Marko]

Did any of the suspects have a motive?

I wouldn't have thought that the theft of £4 was enough motive to blugeon someone to death.

I disagree Louisa people have murdered for far less (although I don't think the money was the motive here).

There were over a dozen 'Qualtrough' entries in the directory. There were several other Manx names with the 'Q' prefix.

[louisa]

Did any of the suspects have a motive?

I wouldn't have thought that the theft of £4 was enough motive to blugeon someone to death.

The person pretending to be Qualtrough must have tried to think of the most unusual name he could. He may have thought up the initial Q to begin with and then looked in the telephone directory for any name beginning with that letter. I doubt if there were many.

Nowadays in Britain we're used to all kinds of strange surnames so the person would have been spoilt for choice in choosing something unusual, but back in the thirties people mainly had standard British surnames.

[Marko]

Hi Mark

How's your book coming along?

Hi Burkhilly

Great to hear from you. I'm still working on it thanks. Hope to have it completed in the next year

[Marko]

Thanks Marko,
I look forward to reading your book if it becomes available in Australia.Just one more question if I may.Was the club captains statement on this given as evidence at the trial?
Regards.

Thanks Harry

At the Trial Club Captain Beattie slightly diverted from what what was said in his statement (and that evidence he gave at the Committal) to the actual evidence at the trial. At the Trial Beattie said that the voice he heard on the telephone was strong and gruff. At the committal he said it was strong and confident. Quite trivial but I suppose the Prosecution would deem that a 'gruff' voice could point to the possibility of the voice being disguised, which Beattie completely dismissed.

[harry]

Thanks Marko,
I look forward to reading your book if it becomes available in Australia.Just one more question if I may.Was the club captains statement on this given as evidence at the trial?
Regards.

[burkhilly]

John Gannon's book has a December release. Just saw on Yo.

[RonIpstone]

It would seem that the name "Qualtrough" is of Manx origin, at any rate according to what is written here.

I did a search on the Find My Past site of all Qualtroughs born between 1845 and 1912. This revealed that there were 47 Qualtroughs whose births were registered in England and Wales between those dates. All but 2 were registered in the north west of England and the vast majority were registered in West Derby, Liverpool. Alas not one had the initials 'R.M.'.

In the early 1930's the Qualtrough name, if not exactly commonplace, was not unknown in Liverpool.

[burkhilly]

Hi Mark

How's your book coming along. John Gannon's book will be out in the next couple of months. Am looking forward to his theories.

[Marko]

Did the person who took the phone call for Wallace, put the message to paper,or was it communicated verbally to Wallace,from memory, when he reached the club?When and by whom was the name 'R.M.Qualtrough' first entered in print?At the trial was any evidence as to the spelling of the name,given in evidence?The short article I have on the crime,doesn't answer my questions,nor do articles appearing on the net.

Chess Club Captain Samuel Beattie asked the caller to spell the name out to him. Beattie wrote the details down on an envelope and handed them to Wallace on his arrival. Wallace then copied the details into his business diary and handed the envelope back to Beattie.

The name Qualtrough is pronounced Qualt (as in quality) with the 'rough' pronounced 'roe.' Some adaptations pronounce it as Qualtruff but this is completely wrong.

[sdreid]

As with dramatizations of all the cases I've seen, The Man From the Pru uses some license.

[sdreid]

Samuel Beattie would probably have been the only person who heard "Qualtrough" pronounce the name so we need to know how he pronounced it in his testimony. I suppose there's a chance that the telephone operator could have heard it. To my knowledge, the caller didn't give the name to Gladys Harley. I guess it's possible that the caller only spelled the name and didn't even pronounce it himself.

[louisa]

I expect the police would have investigated all permutations of a surname as unusual as Qualtrough. The person who first took the message would have needed to ask how a name like that was spelt.

Whenever I've read that name I've always read it as being pronounced 'Kwal-truff' yet on the Man From the Pru (which I'm in the middle of watching for the first time) the name is pronounced 'Kwal-tro'.

In this dramatisation the writers have more than hinted that Julia and Gordon Parry were having an affair. I thought he just occasionally came round for a sing-song round the piano?

[harry]

Maybe someone can answer a question for me(or maybe more than one question).Did the person who took the phone call for Wallace,I have it down as a barmaid,put the message to paper,or was it communicated verbally to Wallace,from memory, when he reached the club?When and by whom was the name 'R.M.Qualtrough' first entered in print?At the trial was any evidence as to the spelling of the name,given in evidence?The short article I have on the crime,doesn't answer my questions,nor do articles appearing on the net.