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  • Tom_Wescott
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    Thanks, Stewart. I like the scissors cutting the noose on the cover of that one. I take it you're not impressed with Goodman's input on this case. He said he was the first to study the trial transcripts and do an exhaustive study. Isn't this his most popular and best-selling book?

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • Stewart P Evans
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    Very Good Book

    Here's another very good book on the case, by John Rowland and dated 1949. It is an amazingly similar read to Jonathan Goodman's book.

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  • Stewart P Evans
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    Guilty

    Originally posted by babybird67 View Post
    i notice you consider it has been proven he was guilty? Has this come from recent evidence? What is it that makes the case decided in your view?
    thanks
    My actual wording was that there was little doubt that Wallace did it. The jury did find him guilty, the verdict was overturned on an early appeal case. As for proven guilty, well you have to read all the evidence and decide if you agree with the jury that found him guilty.

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  • babybird67
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    hi Stewart

    i notice you consider it has been proven he was guilty? Has this come from recent evidence? What is it that makes the case decided in your view?

    thanks

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    Thanks for that suggestion, Stewart. Funny how they put all the inner-sleeve blurbs on the cover! Do you have any Wallace memorabilia in your collection?

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • Stewart P Evans
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    Start

    Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
    Hi Stewart. Yes, I've seen that there's a number of Wallace books (most with only a chapter devoted to it), although I've also read how erred and useless many of them are. After Goodman's I will probably read a few written since his book. I think the JonBenet case, which I've read every book on, might be the most frustrating case I've come across thus far (outside of Jack, of course!).
    Yours truly,
    Tom Wescott
    This is always a good one to start with, it's the Wyndham-Brown classic of 1933 -

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    Hi Stewart. Yes, I've seen that there's a number of Wallace books (most with only a chapter devoted to it), although I've also read how erred and useless many of them are. After Goodman's I will probably read a few written since his book. I think the JonBenet case, which I've read every book on, might be the most frustrating case I've come across thus far (outside of Jack, of course!).

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • Stewart P Evans
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    Touted

    Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
    Hi Stewart,
    I'm surprised to hear that as I thought the Wallace case was a true mystery, unlike (for instance) Lizzie Borden, where there's a lot of evidence that makes it clear only she could have committed the murder. Goodman is fun to read nonetheless, so I look forward to seeing why he was swayed the other way regarding Wallace.
    Yours truly,
    Tom Wescott
    It's touted as probably the best murder mystery ever and appears in a lot of anthologies, but you know those early crime writers were a bunch of romantics. You have lots of books to collect if you are interested in this one!

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    Hi Stewart,

    I'm surprised to hear that as I thought the Wallace case was a true mystery, unlike (for instance) Lizzie Borden, where there's a lot of evidence that makes it clear only she could have committed the murder. Goodman is fun to read nonetheless, so I look forward to seeing why he was swayed the other way regarding Wallace.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • Stewart P Evans
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    Out Of Date

    Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
    Hi all,
    I ordered a copy of Goodman's 'The Killing of Julia Wallace' from the internet (less than $5!) and just received it yesterday. I look forward to reading it. For those most knowledgable in this case, is there a single other volume on the case that could be considered up to the level of Goodman and worth reading?
    Yours truly,
    Tom Wescott
    It's a great case Tom, but Jonathan Goodman's book is a bit out of date now. There's little doubt that Wallace did it and the jury found him guilty.

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    Hi all,

    I ordered a copy of Goodman's 'The Killing of Julia Wallace' from the internet (less than $5!) and just received it yesterday. I look forward to reading it. For those most knowledgable in this case, is there a single other volume on the case that could be considered up to the level of Goodman and worth reading?

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • Marko
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    Originally posted by babybird67 View Post
    thanks for those links. Very interesting.
    Do you know if the girlfriend who gave him his alibi is still alive?
    Hi Babybird67

    I think Lily Lloyd died in 1987 (but I might be mistaken...). She lived (and I presume died) on the Isle of Man. Yes Graham, she was tracked down by Roger Wilkes/Radio City but didn't want to say anything regarding the murder.

    I actually went to the same school that she attended - Lister Drive. Parry and John Parkes (the garage hand that claimed he washed Parry's car the night of the killing) also went to Lister Drive.

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  • Graham
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    Hi Jen,

    the last reference I can find to Lily Lloyd was when Roger Wilkes tracked her down in 1980 or thereabouts. If she's still chugging today, she must be a rather elderly lady.

    Cheers,

    Graham

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  • babybird67
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    hi Marko

    thanks for those links. Very interesting.

    Yes i was aware Parry lived and died in Wales. Do you know if the girlfriend who gave him his alibi is still alive?

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  • Marko
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    Yes, you're right of course regarding the preconception that due to the fact WHW was a chess player, he was a murderer...(and also the fact that he was into the sciences). His appearance also didn't tally very well with the general public - my great aunt would pay Wallace on his rounds and she was convinced of his guilt. "I always knew there was something about him - it was those cold hands"

    I notice you are in Wales. I suppose that you already know that Parry spent the last years of his life and died there in 1980? He lived near Llangernyw.

    Here are a couple of items I put up on the net;

    He was an agent for the Prudential. On the evening of 19th January, 1931, a telephone message had been left for Wallace at the Liverpool Central Chess Club, of which, he was a member. It involved an appointment with a possible client in the nature of business. The message was for Wallace to call at 25 Menlove Gardens...


    Murder victim. In one of the most infamous crimes of the 20th century, she was found brutally murdered in the front parlour of her home in the Anfield area of Liverpool. Her husband, William Herbert, was an agent for the Prudential. He received a telephone message the previous night to call on a prospective client...
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