So, who REALLY killed Jill Dando?

[Spitfire]

Although the image looks more like Jill than Susanne.

[Spitfire]

Strange story. A week or so before she was shot I was watching tv and there was an advert for the Radio Times(a tv listings magazine)which happened to have a picture of Dando on the cover. As I saw this pic I heard a voice say in my head "Oh, she has got to die".
Imagine how surprised I was when a week or so later she was dead.
Then not long later a policeman with a high rank put forward the notion that Dando appearing on the front of the Radio Times had something so do with her death.

You can see the picture here...

https://cowlesmedia.london/radio-tim...ook-of-covers/

If you scroll down. She is dressed in black leather and stood in front of a car.

The text under the photo of the Radio Times front cover from 1999 says that the photo is of "Sue Dando" aka Susanne (Suzanne) Dando, actress and former British gymnast, not Jill Dando who was murdered in 1999. Sue Dando was co-presenting the BBC's Holiday programme at the time of the photo. As far as I'm aware Sue Dando did not get murdered and is still alive today.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Strange story. A week or so before she was shot I was watching tv and there was an advert for the Radio Times(a tv listings magazine)which happened to have a picture of Dando on the cover. As I saw this pic I heard a voice say in my head "Oh, she has got to die".
Imagine how surprised I was when a week or so later she was dead.
Then not long later a policeman with a high rank put forward the notion that Dando appearing on the front of the Radio Times had something so do with her death.

You can see the picture here...

https://cowlesmedia.london/radio-tim...ook-of-covers/

If you scroll down. She is dressed in black leather and stood in front of a car.

Where were you at the time of the murder Albie?

[albie]

Strange story. A week or so before she was shot I was watching tv and there was an advert for the Radio Times(a tv listings magazine)which happened to have a picture of Dando on the cover. As I saw this pic I heard a voice say in my head "Oh, she has got to die".
Imagine how surprised I was when a week or so later she was dead.
Then not long later a policeman with a high rank put forward the notion that Dando appearing on the front of the Radio Times had something so do with her death.

You can see the picture here...

https://cowlesmedia.london/radio-times-publishes-its-own-book-of-covers/

If you scroll down. She is dressed in black leather and stood in front of a car.

[martin wilson]

I don't understand why Barry George can't get compensation, how can anyone be not innocent enough?
He was so obviously a patsy that my suspicions tend towards the police themselves,particularly post Leveson.
My hunches have always been that her phone was being hacked,which is how the killer(s) knew where she was going to be.
The other hunch is that her murder is connected in some way to the murder of Daniel Morgan.

[Maria]

Hi all:

My gut instict in all this, is that her murder had something to do with the programme she was presenting, maybe unwittingly she mentioned someone from the underworld or a relaltive of the underworld.

Or... another one of my pet theories is that Jill Dando does bear a striking resemblance to Suzi Lampugh, the real estate agent. That case, as far as I know has also remained a mystery another unsolved case. There were rumors that someone may have been caught, I can´t recall too well.

There are murderers who kill someone just for one feature, like the murderer who had a fetchism with red stilleto shoes, so after he murdered a woman wearing that kind and colour of shoes, he made a collection of all the victims shoes.

Maria

[Steve]

I believe they are reviewing their options at the moment!

[Graham]

It seems odd that a Serb hitman should kill the person who merely publicised the appeal for Kosovan victims - surely the Serbs would have gone for whoever was actually organising the appeal. Unless, of course, they were looking for a high-profile 'hit', but in which case surely they'd have issued some kind of statement claiming responsibility. Weird.

For what it matters, I always thought that Barry George had been set up by someone, and that the poor bloke hadn't the wherewithal to offer any kind of defence.

The police do tend to become a little blinkered when they think they've got their man - witness Stephen Downing and the murder of Wendy Sewell in Bakewell. To this day, even though through the huge efforts of Don Hale and other of Downing's long-time supporters his innocence has been proven, the police have closed their files on this case - i.e., they still think they had the right man.

I was on hols when George was cleared, but can anyone tell me if the police have made any statement as to whether they've closed their files on the Dando Case?

Cheers,

Graham

[caz]

Hi Caz,

I don't remember the exact details, but during Barry George's original trail, the prosecution produced evidence that a man fitting George's description had visited somewhere (I can't remember whether it was an estate agents, but I thought it was some sort of help centre) and had a conversation with staff (it seemed her was known there). Before he left, he asked several times what the time was. The staff particularly remembered this. Shortly afterwards, Jill Dando was shot. The police seemed to think George was trying to establish an alibi (i.e. heavily suggest to witnesses that he was somewhere else at the approximate time of the shooting). Could this be the incident referred to?

I think the case against Barry George is very weak because, as everyone has pointed out, the crime was much too slick and well organised for him to have carried out and in any case, why would he want her dead when his objective always seemed to be close to the women and celebrities he stalked?

Hi Limehouse,

The case against Barry George is not 'very weak': it's now non-existent.

I recall the incident you describe above, but it doesn't fit with what George was reported to have told the News of the World.

It's very different indeed if someone giving his name as 'Barry Bulsara' was really asking an estate agent for details of Jill's property before she was killed.

That's why I wondered a) who told George that such an incident had taken place, and b) what made him volunteer the info to the newspaper, only to deny it was him and claim that someone else must have coincidentally been asking about the house and calling himself by that name.

Something's just not adding up here.

Love,

Caz
X

[Limehouse]

Yes, the murder did happen very soon after the bombing, I thought that too.

Whoever killed her, they did a very professional job and it seems so unlikely that poor old Barry could have managed it. At least, he does a very good job of appearing to be inacapable of such a crime.

[Bob Hinton]

Claiming responsibility

Hi Bob,

According to yesterday's Daily Telegraph, a few days after the murder, a man with an eastern European accent telephoned the BBC news centre and claimed that Miss Dando was shot in revenge for the bombing of the Belgrade media centre by British planes in which 16 employees died.

Yes I agree that this did happen. However the bombing took place only three days before Jill's murder, hardly enough time to get a hit man arranged, briefed, and flown over. Also his time to stake out the place would be extremely curtailed.

The phone call wasn't made until the following day, I would have thought any real attempt at claiming responsibility would have been done within hours. Also there was no such claim made in Belgrade where you would would have thought that the news would have been welcomed.

However there is no doubting that at first the police did take it seriously by placing Tony Hall (CEO of the BBC) and his family under protection for the next six weeks.

[Limehouse]

Hi All,

It's a very odd case, considering how common it is for attractive female tv celebrities like Jill Dando to attract obsessed fans with screws loose, and how rare it is for them to be murdered because of something they may have said or done in the course of earning their living. Lucky for the latter type of killer that their target wasn't a hairy old tv presenter who would not pass for a stalker's victim in a million years.

I have no doubt about the lack of any evidence to tie Barry George to the scene of crime, and once again it seems that it was a case of needing someone to pay for a high profile murder.

On Sunday, in the Pride of Spitalfields, I was leafing through a freebie copy of the News of the World left for customers to read while enjoying their drinks, and read that Jill Dando's known male friends had been traced and all had alibis which cleared them of any suspicion. But during the interview given to the paper by Barry George himself, a curious bit of info emerged which I hadn't heard before and I wonder if anyone can shed any more light on it. George gave the information that a man who had apparently gone to an estate agent to ask for details about Jill's house (presumably before she was murdered in front of it) and had given his name as 'Barry Bulsara', wasn't him (ie George), implying that the name was simply a very odd coincidence.

The only rational explanation that comes to mind is that someone suggested to George that such an incident had been reported, just to see how he would react, or maybe to obtain exactly this kind of dubious sounding denial from him. Anyone with a higher IQ who had not made any such inquiries about Jill's house would surely have seen through a bluff like that. It would be quite dreadful if this was someone's attempt to make him look guilty despite the official outcome.

Any thoughts?

Love,

Caz
X

Hi Caz,

I don't remember the exact details, but during Barry George's original trail, the prosecution produced evidence that a man fitting George's description had visited somewhere (I can't remember whether it was an estate agents, but I thought it was some sort of help centre) and had a conversation with staff (it seemed her was known there). Before he left, he asked several times what the time was. The staff particularly remembered this. Shortly afterwards, Jill Dando was shot. The police seemed to think George was trying to establish an alibi (i.e. heavily suggest to witnesses that he was somewhere else at the approximate time of the shooting). Could this be the incident referred to?

I think the case against Barry George is very weak because, as everyone has pointed out, the crime was much too slick and well organised for him to have carried out and in any case, why would he want her dead when his objective always seemed to be close to the women and celebrities he stalked?

[Jeff Leahy]

Hi All,

It's a very odd case, considering how common it is for attractive female tv celebrities like Jill Dando to attract obsessed fans with screws loose, and how rare it is for them to be murdered because of something they may have said or done in the course of earning their living. Lucky for the latter type of killer that their target wasn't a hairy old tv presenter who would not pass for a stalker's victim in a million years.

I have no doubt about the lack of any evidence to tie Barry George to the scene of crime, and once again it seems that it was a case of needing someone to pay for a high profile murder.

On Sunday, in the Pride of Spitalfields, I was leafing through a freebie copy of the News of the World left for customers to read while enjoying their drinks, and read that Jill Dando's known male friends had been traced and all had alibis which cleared them of any suspicion. But during the interview given to the paper by Barry George himself, a curious bit of info emerged which I hadn't heard before and I wonder if anyone can shed any more light on it. George gave the information that a man who had apparently gone to an estate agent to ask for details about Jill's house (presumably before she was murdered in front of it) and had given his name as 'Barry Bulsara', wasn't him (ie George), implying that the name was simply a very odd coincidence.

The only rational explanation that comes to mind is that someone suggested to George that such an incident had been reported, just to see how he would react, or maybe to obtain exactly this kind of dubious sounding denial from him. Anyone with a higher IQ who had not made any such inquiries about Jill's house would surely have seen through a bluff like that. It would be quite dreadful if this was someone's attempt to make him look guilty despite the official outcome.

Any thoughts?

Love, Caz X

I just cant help wondering if George was ever in a mental state to stand trial?

He cearly believes he didn't do it..

Yours Jeff

[caz]

Hi All,

It's a very odd case, considering how common it is for attractive female tv celebrities like Jill Dando to attract obsessed fans with screws loose, and how rare it is for them to be murdered because of something they may have said or done in the course of earning their living. Lucky for the latter type of killer that their target wasn't a hairy old tv presenter who would not pass for a stalker's victim in a million years.

I have no doubt about the lack of any evidence to tie Barry George to the scene of crime, and once again it seems that it was a case of needing someone to pay for a high profile murder.

On Sunday, in the Pride of Spitalfields, I was leafing through a freebie copy of the News of the World left for customers to read while enjoying their drinks, and read that Jill Dando's known male friends had been traced and all had alibis which cleared them of any suspicion. But during the interview given to the paper by Barry George himself, a curious bit of info emerged which I hadn't heard before and I wonder if anyone can shed any more light on it. George gave the information that a man who had apparently gone to an estate agent to ask for details about Jill's house (presumably before she was murdered in front of it) and had given his name as 'Barry Bulsara', wasn't him (ie George), implying that the name was simply a very odd coincidence.

The only rational explanation that comes to mind is that someone suggested to George that such an incident had been reported, just to see how he would react, or maybe to obtain exactly this kind of dubious sounding denial from him. Anyone with a higher IQ who had not made any such inquiries about Jill's house would surely have seen through a bluff like that. It would be quite dreadful if this was someone's attempt to make him look guilty despite the official outcome.

Any thoughts?

Love,

Caz
X

[Limehouse]

The reason I don't think this was a political murder is as already mentioned no-one claimed responsibility for it. If you look at political murders in practically every case someone claims they did it - even if they didn't!

That's one of the many reasons I believe the Birmingham Six were actually guilty. If they were innocent the IRA would have paraded the real bombers in front of the TV cameras in some country with no extradition to show how doubly clever they had been.

Renting a flat question. Good point but he wouldn't necessarily disappear suddenly. He rents the flat for one month, murders Jill in the middle of the period, goes abroad, mails the keys back at the end of the period, nothing suspicious.

Barry George has been described as a ‘stalker’. I certainly wouldn’t use that description for him. A stalker fixates on one person and not on a crowd. His behaviour is more in keeping with a slightly weird bloke who tries to talk to strange women. (by strange I mean of course women unknown to him – not weird) I would be interested to hear Jean Ritchie’s view of this mater. Jean Ritchie wrote an excellent book about stalkers.

Look at the case against George.

1. No real forensics.
2. No witnesses
3. No motive
4. No weapon
5. No means

And all this adds up to No Case!

Hi Bob,

According to yesterday's Daily Telegraph, a few days after the murder, a man with an eastern European accent telephoned the BBC news centre and claimed that Miss Dando was shot in revenge for the bombing of the Belgrade media centre by British planes in which 16 employees died.