Jon Benet's Family Exhonerated

[cappuccina]

While Burke was definitely a "weird" kid, I don't think he did this. He did not have the phsycial strength for it, and the ransom note was definitely an "adult" undertaking...

[jimornot?]

While Burke was definitely a "weird" kid, I don't think he did this. He did not have the phsycial strength for it, and the ransom note was definitely an "adult" undertaking...

but possibly as part of a cover up?

cheers

Viv

[cappuccina]

I don't think so; I think mom was responsible for the crimes, and cover-up and dad may have helped with the coverup. I think mom was doing any additional abusing as well.

The Ramseys were/are (Patsy has passed away, John is still alive) very pathological individuals...

[jimornot?]

Hi Cappuccina

I can see how Patsy might have got annoyed with JBR whether because of bed wetting or even rebellion against all the pageants. Do you think it was an accident or intentional?

Not at all sure on the abusing.

atb

viv

[cappuccina]

I think Patsy "lost it" with JB who would not stay in bed, and Patsy was trying to pack for them to leave on a very early morning plane trip....I think that JB had an accident, and would not go to bed, and Patsy "lost it" and picked up the heavy flashlight (Maglite) and hit her in the had, fracturing her skull. She then did the rest as a cover-up, which is really, really pathological and disturbed.

I think that the (ongoing and final) abuse was related mostly to bedwetting, and the fact that Patsy could not "control" her.

As a parent of two wonderful children, the Ramseys horrify me.

[jimornot?]

I think Patsy "lost it" with JB who would not stay in bed, and Patsy was trying to pack for them to leave on a very early morning plane trip....I think that JB had an accident, and would not go to bed, and Patsy "lost it" and picked up the heavy flashlight (Maglite) and hit her in the had, fracturing her skull. She then did the rest as a cover-up, which is really, really pathological and disturbed.

I think that the (ongoing and final) abuse was related mostly to bedwetting, and the fact that Patsy could not "control" her.

As a parent of two wonderful children, the Ramseys horrify me.

I agree - e.g. I don't see how their behaviour after the tragic events was that of loving parents. Seems they helped clear potential items of evidence from the house, both ensured contact with JBR's body and at best contaminated the scene and an apparent refusal to answer questions for weeks on end do not look good. Add to that the stated opinion of some experts that Patsy wrote the ransom note then it all looks very suspicious.

In your scenario apart from blind loyalty and an attempt to hide from the shame of it all, why do you think John Ramsey supported Patsy?

atb

viv

[cappuccina]

I think for the reasons you said, plus he may have had an epiphany that he truly enabled this **** to go on, really...

[jimornot?]

thanks -

it seems whoever did it will never be convicted - not just because patsy since died. Seems like a very inept investigation all round. I know some might say deliberately so as the ramseys were prominent citizens...

all the best

Viv

[cappuccina]

Hi Viv,

I agree with everything you said....It was a terrible miscarriage of justice in many ways...

They could still arrest John for obstruction of justice related to a murder investigation, and "accessory after the fact" but no one has the "balls" to do so...

[mariab]

I definitely think it was un-intentional, either Patsy hit her with a lightbulb or something, in a fit of rage, or (a much more fantastic, sick scenario), her father was sexually “light“ abusing her cum asphyxiation-whatnot-games and lost control of the situation, or the brother hit her “accidentally“. There is corroborated evidence by both their parents and by the pediatrician that less than a year before the murder Burke (the brother) “accidentally“ hit her with a golf club in the face, hard enough for Patsy to seek advice for a cosmetic operation – obviously because she was afraid that the scar might remain, obstructing John Benet's “carreer“ as a peagent beauty queen. The cover-up was obviously conducted by the parents.

[ChainzCooper]

I was flipping through the channels after work today and saw on Nancy Grace's program that plans are underway for officials to re-interview Jon Benet's brother, whos now 23, about the crime. Has anybody else heard this yet?
Jordan

[sdreid]

I hope they ask him to take a poly.

[mariab]

sdreid wrote:
I hope they ask him to take a poly.
Absolutely agree. We don't even know if he was not involved in the murder of his sister.

[jimornot?]

I was flipping through the channels after work today and saw on Nancy Grace's program that plans are underway for officials to re-interview Jon Benet's brother, whos now 23, about the crime. Has anybody else heard this yet?
Jordan

hi

saw this link the other day

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/28/earlyshow/main6907384.shtml?tag=contentBody;cbsCarousel

some rumours persist that Burke refused to answer police questions but I can't see how he would have been allowed to do that

atb

Viv

[mariab]

He could totally have been able to do that if his dad has provided him with an influential lawyer.