JFK Assassination Documents to be released this year

[FISHY1118]

And you ignore the evidence of others who were there. Despite taking no actual part in the work done she claims to have asked the doctors to show her the head wound whilst they were trying to save Kennedy’s life. Nurse Bell is a proven liar who simply cannot be trusted. We can add him to the huge list of staggeringly untrustworthy pro-conspiracy witnesses.

Her evidence stands up , there is no reason to suggest otherwise .

[Herlock Sholmes]

Her evidence stands up , there is no reason to suggest otherwise .

Stands up to what? No one backs her up. Others show her to be untruthful.

[FISHY1118]

Stands up to what? No one backs her up. Others show her to be untruthful.

No one contradicts her statements or calls her untruthful regarding the magic bullet fragments either , but we wont mention that as it been discussed at lengh on this thread for everyone to see if they bother to look .

[Herlock Sholmes]

No one contradicts her statements or calls her untruthful regarding the magic bullet fragments either , but we wont mention that as it been discussed at lengh on this thread for everyone to see if they bother to look .

Ok. Nurse Bell the ballistic expert. Good choice.

[FISHY1118]

Ok. Nurse Bell the ballistic expert. Good choice.

Nurse Bell ,an eyewitness on the day, in the operating room , no reason to say anything other than what she saw . Yer Bloody excellent choice.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Nurse Bell ,an eyewitness on the day, in the operating room , no reason to say anything other than what she saw . Yer Bloody excellent choice.

A woman who lied about pushing in and getting the Doctor to pause whilst trying to save the President’d life to show her the wounds? A woman who sad that it was her impression that the right side of Kennedy’s head was in tact. Dr Jenkins (who was there) even doubted that the doctors got a good look at the head wound.

Im done on this particular aspect of the case. Like Crenshaw and others Nurse Bell was very clearly one of those people who tried to magnify her own involvement. The case is full of people like this. Bell can and should be ignored as about as unreliable as it gets.

If you want to believe her that’s fine.

[FISHY1118]

A woman who lied about pushing in and getting the Doctor to pause whilst trying to save the President’d life to show her the wounds? A woman who sad that it was her impression that the right side of Kennedy’s head was in tact. Dr Jenkins (who was there) even doubted that the doctors got a good look at the head wound.

Im done on this particular aspect of the case. Like Crenshaw and others Nurse Bell was very clearly one of those people who tried to magnify her own involvement. The case is full of people like this. Bell can and should be ignored as about as unreliable as it gets.

If you want to believe her that’s fine.

Well ill just continue on a little longer then .

Nurse Bells testimony about the magic bullet has never been disputed .

She was there on the day, we were not .

There is absolutely no reason to disbelieve her testimony.

This has all been discussed at lengh already in the what should be renamed the "everybody lied , was a moron or never existed thread ."

[Fiver]

Nurse Bells testimony about the magic bullet has never been disputed .

Herlock has shown this is false - even other conspiracy theorists discount Bell.

[FISHY1118]

Herlock has shown this is false - even other conspiracy theorists discount Bell.

Wrong , no one has shown nurse Bells statements regarding the fragments of the magic bullet to be wrong .

Especially not Herlock.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Wrong , no one has shown nurse Bells statements regarding the fragments of the magic bullet to be wrong .

Especially not Herlock.

It was simply something said by a person who clearly exaggerated her involvement. If you wish to assume that she was correct when her statement isn’t backed up by anyone else then it’s up to you Fishy. The case is rife with witnesses who came forward with obvious nonsense.

[FISHY1118]

It was simply something said by a person who clearly exaggerated her involvement. If you wish to assume that she was correct when her statement isn’t backed up by anyone else then it’s up to you Fishy. The case is rife with witnesses who came forward with obvious nonsense.

You have no way of knowing if she was exaggerating or not herlock ,that seems to be a very negative stance if you ask me. We might as well say that every time we dont agree with any witness from now on.

The case is rife with contradictions from start to finish where the warren commission is concerned ,which has already been shown to be the case on many many post over this entire thread .

[Herlock Sholmes]

You have no way of knowing if she was exaggerating or not herlock ,that seems to be a very negative stance if you ask me. We might as well say that every time we dont agree with any witness from now on.

The case is rife with contradictions from start to finish where the warren commission is concerned which has already been shown to be the case on many amny post over this entire thread .

If it’s considered fair to try and dismiss someone like Brennan for not providing an inch perfect description I don’t really see why it’s wrong to show extreme caution when genuine doubt has been shown about the validity of a witness. We have to view them as individuals and in context. If we compile a list of provably ‘dodgy’ witness it can’t be avoided that they are disproportionately on the conspiracy side.

[FISHY1118]

If it’s considered fair to try and dismiss someone like Brennan for not providing an inch perfect description I don’t really see why it’s wrong to show extreme caution when genuine doubt has been shown about the validity of a witness. We have to view them as individuals and in context. If we compile a list of provably ‘dodgy’ witness it can’t be avoided that they are disproportionately on the conspiracy side.

There was no doubt regarding her bullet fragment statement tho. Together with Connally and other witnesses the MBT myth has been shown already .

[Herlock Sholmes]

There was no doubt regarding her bullet fragment statement tho. Together with Connally and other witnesses the MBT myth has been shown already .

So no corroboration + a witness who is clearly not believable on another vital issue = no doubt about the fragments?

No problem Fishy if that’s how your playing it. I’ll leave it at that.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I can’t find the original post because I wrote the number down incorrectly but in it PI claimed that the Parkland Doctors proved that Kennedy’s throat wound was an entry rather than an exit wound.

My response:


Let’s start with the most junior Parkland Doctor, Joe Goldstrich who was just 25 at the time. In an interview in 2020 in Medpage Today he said:

“When I first saw that wound in Trauma Room One, I did not know anything about ballistics and entrance and exit wounds. Then I went into the army in 1965, and I was stationed in the Dominican Republic. After a crash course in entrance and exit wounds by the field hospital commander, I was sent to examine the wound of a Dominican who'd been shot by an American MP. Based on what I had learned, it was clear to me that the Dominican was shot in the back. In that moment, I realized that JFK's throat wound was probably an entrance wound because the margins were so clean and the wound was so small.”

So the least experienced Doctor went for an entrance wound. A Doctor who described himself as nothing more than a ‘gopher’ on that particular day.

Dr. Malcolm Perry said to the Warren Commission (and Perry saw the wound as closely as anyone as he performed the tracheotomy):

"full jacketed bullet without deformation passing through the skin would leave a similar wound for an exit and entrance wound and with the facts which you have made available and with these assumptions, I believe that it was an exit wound."

Yes, he initially thought that it might have been an entrance wound at the time but he didn’t have full information. He wasn’t examining or analysing wounds. He was trying to save the President’s life.

Let’s try Dr. Carrico at the Warren Commission:

Specter: …Now based on those facts was the appearance of the wound in your opinion consistent with being an exit wound?

Carrico: It certainly was. It could have been under the circumstances.

Specter: And assuming that all the facts which I have given you to be true, do you have an opinion with a reasonable degree of medical certainty as whether, in fact, the wound was an entrance wound or an exit wound?

Carrico: With those facts and the fact as I understand it no other bullet was found this would be, this was, I believe, was an exit wound.

Dr. Jenkins also at the Warren Commission:

“….that I thought this was a wound of exit because it was not a clean wound, and by ‘clean’ clearly demarcated, round, punctuate wound which is the usual wound of an wound, made by a missile at some speed.”

Dr. Baxter at the Warren Commission:

“ We could not determine, or did not determine at that time whether this represented an entry or an exit wound.”

“ ….I think that the wound could well represent either exit or entry wound.”

Dr. Peters couldn’t comment because the tracheotomy had already been performed by the time that he arrived in the trauma room.

Dr. Jones at the Warren Commission:

“ The wound in the throat was probably no larger than a quarter of an inch in diameter. There appeared to be no powder burns present, although this could have been masked by the amount of blood that was on the head and the neck, although there was no obvious amount of powder present. There appeared to be a very minimum amount of disruption or interruption of the surrounding skin. There appeared to be relatively smooth edges around the wound, and if this occurred as a result of a missile, you would have probably thought it was a missile of very low velocity and probably could have been compatible with a bone fragment of either - probably exiting from the neck, but it was a very small, smooth wound.”

Dr. Dulany arrived after the tracheotomy incision and so didn’t see the throat wound.

Dr. McClelland arrived after the tracheotomy incision and so didn’t see the throat wound.

Dr. Bashour arrived after the tracheotomy incision and so didn’t see the throat wound.




So it’s difficult to see how anyone could make your claim of a proven entry wound from the Parkland Doctors?