Do you think it was possible...

[Blackkat]

"I think there is more than enough "Evidence" to show that there really wasnt a good suspect...Ever!"

Ditto

[plang]

Hi Mitch, if Sickert did indeed murder any of his models, which by the way is a new concept to myself, then he would most certainly be capable of being Jack The Ripper.
And Blackcat, I think there are plenty of good suspects. And I do believe he has been mentioned many times. We just do not have the 'evidence' to convict.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkJ8zd6tFNQ

[plang]

Docter X. Diseased rhubarb?

[Mitch Rowe]

Hi Mitch, if Sickert did indeed murder any of his models, which by the way is a new concept to myself, then he would most certainly be capable of being Jack The Ripper.

Thats what Im saying. If Sickert really is JTR then it is likely he murdered at least one of his models.
Sickert/JTR would not have been like Jekyl/Hyde. Its likely during the course of his work he couldnt resist doing in one of his models. Ive seen cases like that. Only with Photographers. They lure women that way and Sickert would have done the same.

Now dont tell me Sickert only wanted to murder unfortunates on the street and would never consider murdering one of his models because it dont work that way. Sickert would most likely have murdered a model. Not 100% garanteed but far more than 50%.

EDIT>>> Oh its probably Tobacco.

[Blackkat]

Thats what Im saying. If Sickert really is JTR then it is likely he murdered at least one of his models.
Sickert/JTR would not have been like Jekyl/Hyde. Its likely during the course of his work he couldnt resist doing in one of his models. Ive seen cases like that. Only with Photographers. They lure women that way and Sickert would have done the same.

Now dont tell me Sickert only wanted to murder unfortunates on the street and would never consider murdering one of his models because it dont work that way. Sickert would most likely have murdered a model. Not 100% garanteed but far more than 50%.

EDIT>>> Oh its probably Tobacco.

plang "And Blackcat, I think there are plenty of good suspects. And I do believe he has been mentioned many times. We just do not have the 'evidence' to convict."

True, there were plenty of good ones, and that is the frustrating thing about it - no evidence to convict. I do agree with you there.

Mitch - much like Bundy - " You should be a model" type of thing, let me take some pictures of you.

[plang]

Mitch, never heard anywhere that Sickert (may have) killed any of his models.
It is not a matter of percentages. It is a matter of there are no reports that such crimes took place. Sickert would know better than to bring that attention onto himself.
What I would like to know, is ,was Sickert ever asked publicly about his possible involvement? Was he ever taken into the interrogation room.With a good cop, bad cop scenario? If he was, please excuse my ignorance.
Anyone? Was Sickert ever interrogated?

[Mitch Rowe]

Of course you havent heard of it. Its called a hunch. And it mat not mean anything at all. Like Ive said before. A profile is something wich attempts to predict what the unsub may be like or may be involved in. Each and every rule of the profile may be wrong. It operates on a bell curve. It is most likely that Sickert if he is JTR used tactics wich were familiar to him.
But he may have never involved any of his models.

Its just like the thing with the fistula. Its likely JTR had some sort of sexual dysfunction but if a suspect has one it means nothing. Its part of a profile.
On the other hand. Saying that it was most likely JTR did NOT write any of the letters means nothing also.

To my mind..JTR was somebody whos name hasnt been mentioned as a suspect. But that again is only a hunch.

[plang]

I'm onto you Mitch. You are just pulling my leg.

[Mitch Rowe]

I'm onto you Mitch. You are just pulling my leg.

No..There are many cases where the killer has used nearly the same tactics. Sickert may not have used them but there is a good chance he would have. I emphasize chance. What would be the next easiest way to lure a young Woman if she were not a prostitute? One way is to appeal to her ego. Tell her that she is beautiful enough to become a model or movie star. This sort of thing happens all the time in Hollywood. Young impressionable girls run away to Hollywood with false hopes of becoming a movie star. There are bad Men waiting for them to lure them into pornography or prostitution and even worse men who lure them to their deaths. Its a common tactic with evil Men and if you say Sickert was the Ripper you say Sickert was a very evil Man.

[plang]

Well Mitch, you are obviously well versed in what it takes. Are you crying out for help?

[Mitch Rowe]

Well Mitch, you are obviously well versed in what it takes. Are you crying out for help?

Yes! Help me to find out who Jack was so that I can kill the killer and avenge the deaths of the poor unfortunates who fell to his knife. For I am a troubadour of justice. I weave a song of judgement. I am timeless. There were others before me. There will doubtless be others after me if I should fail in my mission. We know no apathy. And we will not rest until the final verse is spoken. And when all is said and done we shall drive the great steak of humanity into the monsters black heart and pin him to earth and point and laugh and say.."See here.. This is the devil we have been seeking. Not even able to rise above the worms."

[plang]

Jeezus Mitch! Now you are scaring me. What book did you plagiarize that bit from?

[Mitch Rowe]

Jeezus Mitch! Now you are scaring me. What book did you plagiarize that bit from?

LOL..Sorry. I went off on a tangent there. Thats what happens when I take one of those whacked out pills the doctor gave me. What I was trying to say was... Not only do I find these cases enjoyable I feel I have a certain duty to humanity to attempt to solve them. I have studied many murder cases in one form or another since childhood and I feel I can contibute to these cases knowing what I know about criminals and murderers and the like. Even though the victims lives would be considered by some as somewhat unimportant to me they were human beings and worth as much as say, Einsteins life. I dont discriminate.
So...You will just have to take my word for it when I say that Ive noticed many bad men have used the modeling ploy to lure young women into vice and murder.

[plang]

Mitch, with a nickname like 'Leather Apron' ,for some reason ' The Texas Chainsaw Massacre' keeps coming to mind.

[dougie]

So...You will just have to take my word for it when I say that Ive noticed many bad men have used the modeling ploy to lure young women into vice and murder.

Didnt Albert De Salvo (the boston strangler)use the same method at one time......measuring women or something,in his early career anyway, or have I got it mixed up with somebody else?
regards