WS Magazine Dec 2009

[caz]

Hi Adrian,

That's more like it!

All of us at the WS1888 (including contributors and subscribers to the mag) belong to the world of Ripperology in some way or another, and we don't look down our noses at ourselves. If outsiders do that's their loss.

As long as you don't fill the mag with stuff that would make John Pope de Lockup's efforts look polished, you will be doing fine.

If anything, the 'mockery' was directed at Rob Clack, for getting an award that couldn't go to a nice man. It was VERY gentle and he doesn't seem to have taken umbrage.

Lots of love,

Caz
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[Robert]

Adrian, there isn't much debate about the articles in Ripperologist either - but that too is an excellent mag.

The mag that's been the subject of the most debate is probably RN - but that's because it doesn't appear.

[adrian]

Also,

Where there is a ying there's a yang! We have had more hits on this thread than the Mafia. The amount of emails we are getting from people asking about the WS1888 is unbelievable.

So for all of you who have contacted us concerning subscription rates etc, go visit:

https://www.whitechapelsociety.com

Editor.

[adrian]

Thank you John.

Thank you Caz for setting the record straight.

Sometimes, we at the WS1888 feel that the world of Ripperology looks down their noses at us. We tried to make [I]The Journal[I] more Ripperish last year, but this did not garner any debate anywhere, Casebook or otherwise.

So it appeared that the comment concerning a single error in The Journal was a way of mocking The Journal. Also, it seemed to be mocking the writer and the subject of the passage, which I can assure you was not the case. And I understand that some initial comments were jocular in tone.

We welcome criticism and debate - anyone who has attended a Whitechapel Society meeting will agree with this.

In the past, Caz, you kindly responded to an article by Bill Beadle on the Maybrick journal with an excellent article of your own. This is the sort of critique and debate that we would wish to encourage.

Caz, your efforts during the recent Children with Leukaemia fund raiser were unbeknown to me and I can only add further thanks.

Peace, love and Guinness

[John Bennett]

Folks,

The Whitechapel Society Journal is perfectly fine. Mistakes appear anywhere, even in published books. It's unavoidable, unfortunately, but if people want to get on their high horse, then they should put something out themselves 6 times a year. The content and the intent is THERE.

Ignore the pedants and keep going, I say.

John

[caz]

About the afore mention charity appeal we organised for Children With Leukaemia that raised the sum of £1,700. This is still ongoing.

So if any of you, Grave Maurice, Caz or even Ally wish to make an extra contribution - please do!

Hi Adrian,

I think you'd find that I contributed more than my fair share to that enormous figure (and counted most of it for Liza in the ladies' loo!) so I resemble that remark.

On the proof reading issue, those who have offered their services above need not apply, we need professionals!

Blimey mate, calm down. I'm glad you don't need my amateur eye on the ball - not enough hours in the day and all that. I wanted to give Jackie Murphy a break because it was suggested it was her slip of the pen, when the missing letter may well have been a casualty at printing stage, too late for the best proofreader in the world to do anything about. My comment to Rob Clack was in regard to our personal experiences with different publishers and publications. As you of all people must know, I have had no problems at all with the few articles I have submitted to the WS1888 mag. I am always pathetically grateful if they appear more or less as I wrote them.

With the best will in the world, and the highest paid 'professional' proofreaders, nobody could be expected to produce a brilliantly edited magazine every time. And I did NOT suggest that you would ever deliberately change the wording of articles submitted by others, all of whom write well, unpretentiously and with care. I particularly enjoy the regular articles by Mickey Mayhew and John Bennett for example.

All the very best to you for 2010. The mag would still be terrific value with half the number of articles and twice the number of howlers. So stop taking things so personally and flash us your happy face.

Love,

Caz
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[Suzi]

The cat is empying his slush fund box as I type-

See you Feb 6th with the dosh-et! xxx

[adrian]

Oh, Just a thought before I go into the musty haze of a critique-laden afternoon.

About the afore mention charity appeal we organised for Children With Leukaemia that raised the sum of £1,700. This is still ongoing.

So if any of you, Grave Maurice, Caz or even Ally wish to make an extra contribution - please do! (We accept dollars!!! (U.S. dollars preferable, there doesn't seem to be much call for Canadian dollars round our way Grave Maurice!!!!)

Editor.

https://www.whitechapelsociety.com

[Suzi]

Cheers Adrian (sweetie) xxx

Suzi (Member/Reader)

[adrian]

Hi all-

To be honest I love getting my WS88 journal- on occasion I can get up to meetings and on others I cant- Keeps me up to speed (or the closest I get these days!).

Typos!?!- Well to be honest I've been given quite a few books (Coals to Newcastle!) for Christmas and the number of 'errors' are quite staggering!!! (And not remotely amusing- just infuriating!!)

The odd one or two- well to be honest who cares- and the wonderful Rob C one (whether Rob agrees or not- I'm sure he'll ) was - come on a slip of the finger!!! (Better not to go down that road maybe!)

Seriously WELL DONE to the wonderful team from WS88!!!!

Suzi x

(Trouble is- I've lost my last copy somewhere over Xmas and wanted to show hubby the short story winner!- Go on -out of charity- send me another one!!!.....promise to come up twice next year to make it up!!) =^_^= if that's a good offer!

Come on- peoples criticising- £1,700 didn't come out of nowhere!!!!

Suzi (sweetie),

I will make sure you get a free replacement copy!!!!

But you are quite right about the WS1888 Short Story Competition winner. It is very much well worth the read and the top ten entries will be put into an associated publication by the publishers Mythica who are acting on the judging advice of the world famous writer (and WS1888 member, Brian L.Porter who has said, because of the wide ranging success of the WS1888 Short Story Competition the demand for such stories is immense. In fact, he could find no criticism with us!!!

Love Adrian (Editor).

[adrian]

Ally,

Funny that you said; "Suck it up, accept it, admit it and move on. Why is that so hard for people?"

We had our interim meeting last night and I accidentally spilt my pint of Guinness (extra cold) on the table. The bar lady approached me and said: "Suck it up, accept it, admit it and move on."

I remonstrated with her, but she just replied sternly: "Why is that so hard for some people?"

Ally, you're not that self same bar maid in the Aldgate Exchange?

Editor.

[adrian]

Oh, and while I'm here,

Our subscription details can be found at: www.whitechapelsociety.com

We do six editions of The Journal each year and they are mailed straight to your door...yes, straight to your very door!

We also do six meetings each year. The next meeting will be Saturday 6th February. This will be a Question Time style affair with a panel who can be asked questions and answer these and...um, criticisms if they wish.

It will be fantastic!!!

The Whitechapel Society- Where Legend becomes history...

Editor

[adrian]

Ally, Thanks for agreeing with us.

By all means criticise, but please remember that people must be prepared to do it openly and not hide behind the guise of anonymity. Still, I have answered these critics and they have mostly all gone quiet!!! Probably catching up on old editions of X Factor!!!!

However, with over 1,127 hits in just over a week and a half to this thread, the old Oscar Wilde adage of "no such thing as bad publicity" has proven accurate. We have been getting many emails of support and asking about subscription details.

So I can only thank you all for your support and, dare I say it, criticism.

Best wishes in peace, love and...oh, criticism,

Your esteemed Editor.

[Ally]

Grave Maurice (whoever you are),

If you stop criticising us we might be able to get on with producing our Journal.


Editor.

Er...how precisely does that work? Criticism stops you full in your tracks and prevents you from working at all? Interesting. Most people by the time they reach adulthood are able to move forward even in the face of mild criticism and accept it as part and parcel of life.

Some people even use criticism as a means of improving themselves.

You all made a mistake. Suck it up, accept it, admit it and move on. Why is that so hard for people?

[Suzi]

Hi all-

To be honest I love getting my WS88 journal- on occasion I can get up to meetings and on others I cant- Keeps me up to speed (or the closest I get these days!).

Typos!?!- Well to be honest I've been given quite a few books (Coals to Newcastle!) for Christmas and the number of 'errors' are quite staggering!!! (And not remotely amusing- just infuriating!!)

The odd one or two- well to be honest who cares- and the wonderful Rob C one (whether Rob agrees or not- I'm sure he'll ) was - come on a slip of the finger!!! (Better not to go down that road maybe!)

Seriously WELL DONE to the wonderful team from WS88!!!!

Suzi x

(Trouble is- I've lost my last copy somewhere over Xmas and wanted to show hubby the short story winner!- Go on -out of charity- send me another one!!!.....promise to come up twice next year to make it up!!) =^_^= if that's a good offer!

Come on- peoples criticising- £1,700 didn't come out of nowhere!!!!