Ripperologist 144: June 2015

[Hunter]

Well, since you read it three times and apparently haven't found his mistakes, I guess you don't fit in the expert category.

Hi Mike,

I don't believe I mentioned his mistakes, although I will again reiterate that I don't see Littlechild's "endorsement" of Tumblety as anything more than a suggestion to Sims that amongst the suspects Tumblety was probably the "Dr." referred to by Sims and it got muddled as it apparently passed from Anderson to Griffiths to Sims.

I agree that I don't fit into the "expert" category. The only degree I have is the elevated one I acquire working in the summertime heat.

[jmenges]

JM,

You don't think Gareth has insulted Tumblety researchers with his comments?

Mike

No, I really don't.

I read Gareth as saying that students of the case shouldn't elevate the candidacy of a particular suspect based solely on the fact they have been named by a person with knowledge, such as Littlechild, Anderson,Swanson etc, since these men were fallible, and may have been influenced in the wrong direction by others whom they believed were correct. Or, conversely, they may have been steered right, which is why some of us truly are armchair detectives. We need to find out. It's important to dig as deeply as the existing evidence allows us into not only the possible motives of the named suspects, but also their accusers, so that we get as full a picture as possible into the true origins of a suspects candidacy.

Gareth does not believe Tumblety is Jack the Ripper. Neither do I. Perhaps he could have more clearly worded his editorial, but I do not read his words as an insult to Tumblety researchers, and I happen to be one, admittedly to a far lesser degree than those who have published on the man.

If Gareth comes along and states that I'm wrong and his intention was to insult a whole bunch of us then I'll grab my coat.

JM

[mklhawley]

Hi Mike,

I don't believe I mentioned his mistakes, although I will again reiterate that I don't see Littlechild's "endorsement" of Tumblety as anything more than a suggestion to Sims that amongst the suspects Tumblety was probably the "Dr." referred to by Sims and it got muddled as it apparently passed from Anderson to Griffiths to Sims.

I agree that I don't fit into the "expert" category. The only degree I have is the elevated one I acquire working in the summertime heat.

Actually, Tom, JM, and Hunter, et. al., thank you. Now we're down to good ol' debate.

I see the big issue with Littlechild is he stated Tumblety was 'amongst the suspects', and Sims asked Littlechild for a reason. Sims knew Littlechild was in the know and for Littlechild to remember Tumblety so vividly, he must have been more than a nobody.

The problem I see with Gareth is he believes Scotland Yard considered Tumblety a suspect because of his 'sexual proclivities', which is not the case. Littlechild mentioned Tumblety's aversion to women for a reason, because this was why Assistant Commission Anderson was so concerned about him. He had an unusual and intense hatred in women. Note the Buffalo article in my first post.

There is more to the story in which I will be presenting later.

Sincerely,

Mike

[Simon Wood]

Hi Mike,

A word to the wise.

That horse you're flogging is dead.

Regards,

Simon

[mklhawley]

Hi Mike,

A word to the wise.

That horse you're flogging is dead.

Regards,

Simon

Thank you, Simon. I wouldn't expect any other kind of advice from you.

Mike

[caz]

What other suspect can be connected to the kidney, the heart, and the uterus?

All of them? They all had kidneys, a heart and came from their mother's uterus.

Do I win £5?

Or just visit him at his blog, which is isabotagetumbletytheories at blogspot.

That's hilarious, Tom.

Love,

Caz
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[caz]

Dear Adam,

I notice that you have reviewed 'Ripped'.

Any plans to read & review 'Prisoner 4374'?

Amanda

Hi Amanda,

There was an article on Cream in the latest Whitechapel Society mag, by someone who shares your first name.

Do I take it you have nothing else in common? Many thanks.

Love,

Caz
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[Sam Flynn]

Oh Gareth ! I'm still waiting for you to show me how the subsequent research has all but absolved Tumblety.

Just a personal view, Mike, as is the nature of editorials - as I see them, at least. To that end, I try to write mine with the express intention of stimulating debate, not that I always succeed. Be that as it may, it was in that spirit that I wrote the piece, and my choice of phrase ("all but") was quite deliberate - there is always room for discussion! 'Tis what we're here for, after all

Kind regards, and sincere thanks for your feedback.

[mklhawley]

All of them? They all had kidneys, a heart and came from their mother's uterus.

Do I win £5?

I can't argue with you there, Caz!

Sincerely,

Mike

[mklhawley]

Just a personal view, Mike, as is the nature of editorials - as I see them, at least. To that end, I try to write mine with the express intention of stimulating debate, not that I always succeed. Be that as it may, it was in that spirit that I wrote the piece, and my choice of phrase ("all but") was quite deliberate - there is always room for discussion! 'Tis what we're here for, after all

Kind regards, and sincere thanks for your feedback.

Thank you for replying Gareth. Much appreciated. I hope you enjoy my next areas of research.

Sincerely,

Mike

[Amanda]

Hi Amanda,

There was an article on Cream in the latest Whitechapel Society mag, by someone who shares your first name.

Do I take it you have nothing else in common? Many thanks.

Love,

Caz
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Hi Caz,
I've just contacted the Whitechapel Society to get a copy of the review.

No idea who wrote it, but must be a coincidence that we have the same first name. I would never review my own book.

Amanda

[Howard Brown]

Caz:

The woman who wrote the article in the WS1888 Journal is Amanda Harvey Purse.
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[Sam Flynn]

Thank you for replying Gareth. Much appreciated. I hope you enjoy my next areas of research.

My pleasure, Mike - your thanks are reciprocated. I certainly look forward to seeing more of your research.

[Trevor Marriott]

My pleasure, Mike - your thanks are reciprocated. I certainly look forward to seeing more of your research.

Sam
He doesn't need any encouraging !

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Sam Flynn]

Sam
He doesn't need any encouraging !

We all need a little encouragement now and then, Trev. Especially me!