Casebook Examiner No. 3 (August 2010)

[mariab]

Hi Corey,
I guess I'll be surprised to find out how it all connects together in your article.
I'll MP you at some point, only now my head is falling between the laptop keyboard and screen like a filling between 2 slices of bread, so I'm calling it a night.
Good luck and have fun with your research for the article.

[corey123]

Hello Maria,

Yes, Ted Bundy is about as close as I plan to reveil at this point. Of coarse, I believe you will be supprised at how this may be connected to my essay.

Anyways, PM me if you like. I will be more than welcom to talk on it.

Yours truly

[mariab]

Hello Corey,
I looked at previous posts and it seems that I've had you confused with MrTwibbs. Many, many apologies!
I totally got it before that only a small part of your essay discusses your personal psychological evaluation of the murderer, and that the rest is about other matters. (Wonder what other matters!) Bundy, huh? Now I get it why Wescott is happy that your profile fits to his Le Grand. Such as a Dahmer profile would fit Kozminski (whom I don't consider as a viable suspect) or perhaps Barnett (whom I consider viable, so shoot me!), etc.. To be honest I mostly agree with Fisherman, that Le Grand profiles like the one of these 2 LA Italian strangler fellas from the 1970s (Buono what's his face), who, interestingly enough, had an associate in his cousin, as le Grand might have had (an associate, I don't know about a cousin!). In my opinion Bundy was a bit less obvious in his acting out than Le Grand. On the other side, there's a very entertaining essay online by an FBI lady discussing how idiotic Bundy's MO was, as he drived around in a GOLD Volkswagen beetle, approaching would-be-victims with the line “Hi, my name's Ted“. Might have as well left his wallet at the scene...
I'll definitely read your essay with great interest, if you wish to PM me or I can wait until December. This week's a bit tight, due to my needing to complete an article of mine (most obviously NOT in Ripperology) which needs at least 3 evenings to get done, and tonight won't do it, plus another, shorter text on deadline.
As for News from Whitechapel, I'm afraid pricey is not good for right now. I've been thinking about bying the new A-Z, but after all the corrections occurring, I seriously consider to wait until the next (paperback) edition!!

[corey123]

Hello Maria,

I never interened to go to the National Archives. I believe Tom has misled you onto the details of my essay.

It is not a profile. However, a small part of it discusses my personal psychological evaluation of the murderer. Let me give you a hint to what it may entail to. Ted Bundy. That is as much as I plan to reveil of it (apart from what is already commonly known of my theories ).

However, yes research on the details of my essay are going smoothly. If you wish to inquire any more about the deeds you can PM me.

Yours truly

p.s Yes your summery is a bit off. The book contains many full accounts of the Daily Telegraph without bias. It is a resource book not a theororist book. Do, when you have a chance, check it out. It is a bit pricey but worth every penny.

[mariab]

Hello Corey,
is News from Whitechapel, Jack the Ripper in the Daily Telegraph mainly a discussion of The Daily Telegraph reports about the Ripper case, arranged by 3 different writers/editors? Apologies if my assumption is totally off, as a newbie! In case my guess is correct though, I must say I'd be more interested in reading the original Daily Telegraph reports and form my own opinions and analysis. My next step in Ripperology is managing to find a bit of time to read Sugden – but it probably won't happen before a couple of weeks.
By the by, did you manage to go do research at the National Archives as you wanted? And I'm looking forward to reading your article in Examiner 5, and your “mysterious“ profile on the Ripper that Wescott found so fitting to his Le Grand!
As for my own research (in musicology, NOT in Ripperology!), I've been working since 9.30 a.m. non stop today, identified a hand of a collaborator for a Rossini opera in 10'min., but had to fight a substitute librarian (with a speech and mental impediment, no idea how she got the job, but this is France!) for half an hour until she finally split and let me photograph the source, and later I found out about the existence of another 13 rolls of microfilms, in addition to the 18 rolls I've already gone through so far pertaining to another bunch of sources. Now I'm about to call it a night, while having convulsions from sheer exhaustion.

[corey123]

Hello Maria,

Any book is worth reading unless told otherwise. I have to say I agree with Maurice, News from Whitechapel, Jack the Ripper in the Daily Telegraph is a wounderful book.

[mariab]

Stewart Evans wrote:
But who are 'the players' and how does one qualify to be 'a player'?
Good question. I'm very interested in reading The news from Whitechapel, but should a book on Stride considering Packer's testimony as truthful make it to the “official“ reading list for Ripperology?

[The Good Michael]

Maria,

Please spare us the commentary about how difficult your life is. I'm kind of sick of it with the Paris this, and German boss that, and having to eat quiche every day. You irritate the pi$$ out of me.

Have a nice day.

Mike

[Stewart P Evans]

Who?

...
In my opinion, you can't follow this game if you don't know the players. Dave Yost was one of three authors of the very influential book...

But who are 'the players' and how does one qualify to be 'a player'?

[mariab]

To The Great Maurice:
No problem at all. It's OK about the hard work, and I despise myself for being so whiny. Paris is lovely, only too crowded. I'm just back from an evening with the girls in a beautiful, warm night (after also watching the movie The Runaways, of all things, which opened in Paris this week), and I'm slightly feeling the booze. We shared a shellfish casserole and yummy brochettes de veau, and my female guitarist friend was chasing me around rue Coquillère until I tried to climb one of the rare trees in Paris, so it was not an evening of very mature activity.
Are you referring to the Boul' Mich on Michigan Ave., Chicago, or to the one in the Quartier Latin in Paris?
Now to email back my boss, who never sleeps (although it's still early evening in Chicago).
And I truly can't wait to read Sugden, only it'll have to wait until my deadlines are met.

[The Grave Maurice]

Maria,

As you say, I was only suggesting that using any available time to read the JtR literature is not misspent.

Sorry to hear that you are having to work so hard, although I can't be too sympathetic toward anyone who gets to spend as much time in Paris as you do. Makes me very envious. How are things on the Boul' Mich?

[mariab]

To The Great Maurice:
Thank you, I now recall about David Yost having written one of the 3 books on Stride, and from the context on this thread I get it that Yost is lobying for Packer having been truthful, so it's safe to say that I won't be reading Yost's book on Stride. I'm deeply ashamed of never having heard of The news from Whitechapel, and at some point I might read it, even though the author's beliefs in his book about Stride puzzle me greatly.
The Great Maurice wrote:
You might want to consider the advantages of reading more.
Wow! I consider this ironic since I've been working non stop since several weeks for 19 hour days, conducting research at the Paris Opéra under the most hurried, stressful conditions (under the threat that they'll close again any time now, due to the dust accumulating from the intense construction on the Opéra façade, NOT mentioning the horrible, scratchy noise by the machines, and try to read fragments of music when disturbed by such noise for 4 hours daily), and in the evenings I'm stuck with completing a long French article (due for publication soon) on my findings and on my reconstruction of the genesis of Rossini's Le Comte Ory. I have Sugden here and I wanted to finally be able to read it, but after the French article I'm on deadline for a proposal for both some French/German funding and for a conference (thankfully, the same proposal fits both, and it's also derivative of my dissertation, so in can be done in a single evening).
Besides all this, my surfboard is lying under the couch, unused, and my ice skates I was hoping to use very early today for an early session at the Bercy ice rink (before it gets horribly crowed and one can forget about jumps), but I didn't feel like getting up at 7.00 a.m. today, and I slept deeply for almost 10 hours instead. Plus, I have my Chicago boss who manages to eat away much of my evening time, although now it's gone back to the “lovey-dovey“ stage of “your work is terrific, enjoy a rest day, bla bla“.
As my French apartment owner says, “It's relaxing watching people work like ants, now that I'm retired“. So I guess that catching up on my readings in Ripperology might have to wait a little bit, until my real work and real-job-related-readings are done, so that I'm in a position to pay next month's rent and expenses (like Mary Kelly!). I'm not even considering (what's left of) my social life and sports at this point...
(Wow! It sure feels cathartic to complain a big bunch once in a while, so I guess that I should thank The Great Maurice for providing me with this opportunity.)

[The Grave Maurice]

Who on earth is Yost?!

Maria,

In my opinion, you can't follow this game if you don't know the players. Dave Yost was one of three authors of the very influential book The News from Whitechapel. He also wrote the, perhaps, somewhat more controversial Elizabeth Stride and JtR: the Life and Death of the Reputed Third Victim. He is a very talented writer.

You might want to consider the advantages of reading more.

[mariab]

Hi Caz,
you might be simply underestimating Le Grand's intelligence. He was one for complicated (too complicated schemes), but clearly not the brightest bloke. He heard “grapes“, he thought “I'll give you a grape stalk, and make you run around in circles“. He doesn't sound like someone who had clear thoughts about the long term consequences of his acts.
Who on earth is Yost?!
Getting ready for work, already late, a won-der-ful Saturday, no different than a Monday. And I even got my stupid Chicago boss on my back, who, after engaging in a dispute all night, now plays the victim. Bloody Yankees! The world would be better without them!

[caz]

No, with Chapman and Eddowes, the Ripper would have known, but we don't see Le Grand planting grapes at those crime scenes, do we?

You're right there, Tom. We don't even see Le Grand planting himself at those crime scenes. But why would we unless he was actually there? As for planting grapes, I thought it was just a stalk they found. Wasn't that your point - no grapes? Yet now you are forgiving Le Grand, supposedly the last man to see Stride alive, for believing there could have been. Even the police are forgiven for initially taking the grapes seriously. I wondered when they would start creeping back onto the menu, in spirit at least. Better than flushing Le Grand down the pan, eh?

And not so much of the 'your boy Yost'. Yost is not my boy and I'd prefer it if nobody got that impression.

Love,

Caz
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