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    Afternoon.
    I would be grateful if anyone could put up either links or copies of Chris Scott, Michael Connor and Derek Osbournes esssys on Lechmere being JTR.
    I believe they are the first guys to propose this theory. I have found 2 essays by Michael Connor, but I haven’t been able to find anything by Scott or Osbourne.
    Thanks for any help you can give.

  • #2
    https://www.jack-the-ripper.org/charles-cross.htm
    Thems the Vagaries.....

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    • #3
      Chris put his notes up here.
      https://forum.casebook.org/forum/rip...ere#post328177

      JM

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Al Bundy's Eyes View Post
        who wrote this and when was this published/presented. hard to tell
        "Is all that we see or seem
        but a dream within a dream?"

        -Edgar Allan Poe


        "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
        quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

        -Frederick G. Abberline

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        • #5
          It appears to be Richard Jones. The piece is from his site.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
            It appears to be Richard Jones. The piece is from his site.
            It is. And he wants a complicated solution. Not a simple one.

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            • #7
              https://www.casebook.org/dissertatio...s-was-jtr.html
              dustymiller
              aka drstrange

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              • #8
                Perhaps the first to name Cross was Derek Osbourne, his version can be found in Ripperoo #7 and 8 waaay back in 2001.
                dustymiller
                aka drstrange

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
                  It appears to be Richard Jones. The piece is from his site.
                  Indeed it is. I was reading around and meant to link an entirely different article, but hey, Richard Jones is good too? He's been on TV, he must be good?
                  Thems the Vagaries.....

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by drstrange169 View Post
                    Perhaps the first to name Cross was Derek Osbourne, his version can be found in Ripperoo #7 and 8 waaay back in 2001.
                    Hi Dusty,

                    In July, 2001 an article of Osborne’s, ‘To the Ripper a Son’, appeared in Ripperana. In it he put forward the idea that Charles Cross and Charles Lechmere may have been one and the same, based on what he called a ‘set of remarkable coincidences’:


                    ‘Both were employed

                    Both had lived at the same address

                    Both were called Charles

                    Both shared the same ‘A’ as the letter of their middle names

                    And both appeared to be of the same age’


                    Osborne doesn’t appear totally convinced that his speculation is correct, though. He says, ‘Of course, I cannot prove Cross used the name Lechmere, or even if he changed his name. I can only ponder on the possibility.’

                    At this stage, Maria Lechmere’s marriage to Thomas Cross was unknown. That and the appearance of CAL on the 1861 census as Charles Cross would presumably have removed any lingering doubt in Osborne’s mind as to whether Cross/Lechmere were one and the same.

                    Some time before he had written this article, Osborne had already formed the idea that ‘Cross’ may have been the Ripper. He mentions an earlier article that had appeared in Ripperana 33 in 2000 in which he outlined this theory.

                    Gary





                    Last edited by MrBarnett; 07-16-2021, 07:36 AM.

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                    • #11
                      And in the 2001 Ripperana article he points out, "But going by, or using another name is not an uncommon occurrence" ;-)

                      P.S. I don't have #33, do you? I'd love to see a scan, to see if it's the same article hat appeared in Ripperoo.
                      dustymiller
                      aka drstrange

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by drstrange169 View Post
                        And in the 2001 Ripperana article he points out, "But going by, or using another name is not an uncommon occurrence" ;-)

                        P.S. I don't have #33, do you? I'd love to see a scan, to see if it's the same article hat appeared in Ripperoo.
                        I’ve got 37 (July, 2001) in which he seems to present the discovery of the Cross/Lechmere connection as a new discovery. From that I assume that his article in 33 (July, 2000) the previous year didn’t included anything about the name issue.

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                        • #13
                          Yeah, I've got that one too. Ah well.
                          dustymiller
                          aka drstrange

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by drstrange169 View Post
                            Yeah, I've got that one too. Ah well.
                            I’ve found one online and ordered it. Hopefully it’ll arrive before I go on holiday.


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