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  • The Grave Maurice
    Premium Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1674

    #1

    Philip Sugden

    I am, as I imagine many of us are, a great admirer of Philip Sugden. He is the author of what is, in my opinion, the finest book yet written on JtR, but I know absolutely nothing about him, except that he is described as a professional historian. Every once in a while I Google his name and find nothing but references to his book. I also check lists of British academics whenever possible but, again, zilch.

    Does anyone know anything about him? Where he went to school? Where he teaches (taught)? What his usual area of study is? What attracted his attention to JtR?

    Any information gratefully received.
  • Stewart P Evans
    Superintendent
    • Apr 2008
    • 2994

    #2
    Philip Sugden

    I met Phil Sugden 14 years ago and he proved to be a true friend and wise adviser. He is a couple of years older than me and is an academic, he was once a teacher. He has assisted his brother Dr. John Sugden with his books, notably his comprehensive biography of Horatio Nelson. Phil has no real ongoing interest in the Ripper, his book being one of his historical research projects. He is more interested in the 18th century. He has completed another book that will hopefully see publication soon. He worked at Hull University.
    Last edited by Stewart P Evans; 08-28-2008, 10:30 AM.
    SPE

    Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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    • Mike Covell
      Superintendent
      • Feb 2008
      • 2957

      #3
      Mr Sugdens book was one of the first Ripper books I read cover to cover. It certainly is a great read and quite fluid, in that once you start, your halfway through before you know it.
      Regards Mike

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      • The Grave Maurice
        Premium Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 1674

        #4
        Thank you very much, Stewart. That's certainly more than I knew about Philip yesterday. I'll keep an eye out for books by John, on the assumption that talent runs in the family, and I look forward to Philip's new book. As Mike says, he is an interesting and compelling writer---traits that are not all that common among historians.

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        • Baron Von Chambers
          Cadet
          • Feb 2009
          • 6

          #5
          I must agree with this, as far as I'm concerned The Complete History of Jack the Ripper is one of the finest books I've ever read, really helped me when I first started researching the case and in part I kind of owe my interest in it to Philip Sugden.

          By the way, Stewart, I' am a great admirer of your work. Would love to discuss with you at some point
          www.myspace.com/whitechapelstrailofterror

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          • Stewart P Evans
            Superintendent
            • Apr 2008
            • 2994

            #6
            Thank You

            Originally posted by Baron Von Chambers View Post
            By the way, Stewart, I' am a great admirer of your work. Would love to discuss with you at some point
            Thank you for the kind words.
            SPE

            Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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            • belinda
              *
              • Feb 2008
              • 618

              #7
              Philip Sugdens book is definently one of the best Every time I go back to it I always seem to learn something new!

              I actually have two editions

              Stewart please pass on to him my thanks for his book. It cleared up alot of mistakes I'd picked up. The first book I read on the Ripper was by Peter Underwood and it was not as accurate as it could have been.
              It would be wonderful if he would consider doing another update on the book when he has a chance.

              It's actually very hard to get Ripper books in Australia apparently there's "Not enough interest"!

              I also admire your work too

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              • The Grave Maurice
                Premium Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 1674

                #8
                John Sugden

                PBS just broadcast a show about the War of 1812. The interesting thing for our purposes was that John Sugden was on it, in part because of his book about Tecumseh. John was very good. Not only was he informative...he can sing. (But I still wish he'd brought his brother with him.)

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                • Tom_Wescott
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 7005

                  #9
                  Why wasn't Chris George in it? And has Philip published a book since his 'JTR' tome?

                  Yours truly,

                  Tom Wescott

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                  • Archaic
                    Chief Inspector
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1903

                    #10
                    Hi everyone.

                    Ken, thank you for asking these questions about Mr. Sugden! Like the rest of you I've always admired his work and wanted to know a little more about him.

                    I'm going to look for that 1812 documentary on the PBS website- was it the show 'American Experience'? Many excellent PBS docs are available for viewing on their website, pbs.org. Here's the link: http://www.pbs.org/

                    I'll have to look for John Sugden's book on Tecumseh. He's a fascinating subject for research; an historically prominent Native American leader that is for some strange reason too little known even by scholars of American History. Sadly, most people think 'Tecumseh' is just General Sherman's rather unusual middle name.

                    So there's another book for my Amazon Wish List!

                    Thanks everybody,
                    Archaic

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                    • Adam Went
                      Inactive
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 779

                      #11
                      Sugden's was my first Ripper book. IMO it's a downright shame that such an obviously talented individual has more or less nothing to do with the JTR case beyond the publication of his work, we could do with more like him.

                      Cheers,
                      Adam.

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                      • Haskins
                        Constable
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 52

                        #12
                        Philip Sugden's book is The Book in my opinion. Along with the A to Z it is essential reading for anyone who is curious to know what really happened. I wasn't totally convinced by Sugden's choice of most likely suspect, even though he did go to great lengths to stress that there wasn't enough evidence to be sure.

                        But it was a much needed book after all the fanciful theories that abounded through the 70's, 80's and 90's.

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