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  • #61
    I'd give him the lime, Tom.

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    • #62
      No offense intended towards any "Ripper" writer....famous or not...but one would think banding incestuously to others who do not share your opinions and are generally not open to revising their own opinions would be like taking a cross country bike trip with a stationary bike...or swimming the Channel while carrying a Fridge.

      Thankfully not having written Ripper tales leaves me right where I want to be... still learning.

      All the best.

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      • #63
        Yes, everyone of them carries a fridge at conference.
        I like to think it is to keep my beer cool, but I believe they carry their transplants with them.

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        • #64
          Michael,

          I'm not sure I catch your meaning. You think writing about the Ripper keeps you from learning? I've found it does quite the opposite for me. What do you mean banding together?

          Yours truly,

          Tom Wescott

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          • #65
            Tom,

            Hush! Don't let anyone know about the super-secret Writers Cabal, the free time-shares in the Carribean and Mediterranean, the royalties we divvy up every time the Royal Conspitacy is mentioned and especially ixnay on the $1bn federal bailout of the Rip writing industry.

            Don.
            "To expose [the Senator] is rather like performing acts of charity among the deserving poor; it needs to be done and it makes one feel good, but it does nothing to end the problem."

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
              Michael,

              I'm not sure I catch your meaning. You think writing about the Ripper keeps you from learning? I've found it does quite the opposite for me. What do you mean banding together?

              Yours truly,

              Tom Wescott
              Hi Tom,

              I did like the piece that Don put after yours, before I forget to mention it.

              I was suggesting that grouping together individuals that by their nature cannot or will not embrace concepts beyond their own easily, or often not even with generosity....as with all scholarly Academicia in general, not just Ripperology, leaves you with as many points of view as their are members and no arbitrators or answers. Every one has an emotional stake in their work....and few scholars, (which in my opinion are the ones that research and write about it).....are willing to exchange their findings, instincts and hard work for another's.

              I believe the scholars need the students, as much as they are needed by them.

              All of this relates to the idea of a writers only discussion board.

              All the best Tom.
              Last edited by Guest; 06-02-2009, 02:15 AM.

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              • #67
                Hi Michael. I'm not entirely inclined to agree with you, particularly since the idea of an 'invitation-only' writers forum was originally my idea. I hatched that a couple or three years back and was in the process of getting a special section on Howard's site for it. This is before he turned evil. It's not an elitist thing. My vision was for a place where only a few topics at a time would be discussed by only select individuals. This would keep interruptions and unproductive fighting to a minimum. In short, cut out all the fat and keep the meat. I still think it's a great idea, but clearly that is not what Spiro is doing, so I wouldn't even compare the two.

                Yours truly,

                Tom Wescott

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                • #68
                  Temerity

                  For those who lack the temerity, AP Wolf (Cap'n Jack) and Tome Wusscott, in taking their latter day concerns where they belong, all complaints and enquiries regarding the web site Jack the Ripper Writers should be directed to that site at:

                  ripwriters@y7mail.com

                  I do appreciate however, that the two posters mentioned above, have no other avenues left on the internet in spreading malicious gossip and unfounded speculations.

                  Michael,

                  You make some good points which I think Don has covered mostly.
                  Jack the Ripper Writers -- An online community of crime writers and historians.

                  http://ripperwriters.aforumfree.com

                  http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...nd-black-magic

                  "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                  • #69
                    That being the case, Spiro old stick, why does Joe feel obliged to explain his actions and thoughts on the Forums site, rather than yours; and why are my posts deleted for no good reason, other that they are good; and why do you allow undated and unadmitted alterations to dated posts?
                    You have a thread to discuss all of this already, so why don't you just be up front with it and stop playing god.

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                    • #70
                      It's only a web site...
                      Jack the Ripper Writers -- An online community of crime writers and historians.

                      http://ripperwriters.aforumfree.com

                      http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...nd-black-magic

                      "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                      • #71
                        And that Spiro is so lame that if you were a donkey I would respectfully suggest you beat yourself over the head with your three good legs and then throw your good self off the nearest cliff.
                        Just don't land on me.

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                        • #72
                          Visitor's Noticeboard

                          ...moving right along as Cap'n Jack attempts to locate his fourth gammy leg...

                          I hope that the articles, Francis Tumblety - Identifying the Source by Joe Chetcuti were of interest and they certainly have generated some lively discussion. So thanks again to Joe for the generous gesture in displaying his well researched and written article on Jack the Ripper Writers which can be viewed here:

                          A few items of writing on Jack the Ripper by members for the enjoyment and interest of valued readers and guests. Just a reminder that copyright remains with th



                          There is also now available to Casebook readers a 'Visitor's Noticeboard' as a free service to the Ripper community found at this link for Ripper announcements, events, whatever...

                          Visitors to Jack the Ripper Writers may, if you wish, post notices here on book releases, journals, events, people etc. The visitor's noticeboard is offered as
                          Jack the Ripper Writers -- An online community of crime writers and historians.

                          http://ripperwriters.aforumfree.com

                          http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...nd-black-magic

                          "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                          • #73
                            What a crock of ****. You know Spiro, if you are going to whore your own message boards on competing forums, that's one thing. But cut the bullshit where you try to pretend you are doing it as a service to the people on these message boards and not trying to drum up visitors and members to your own site.

                            I mean there's shameless and blatant self promotion, and then there's just flat out whoring lies.

                            And by the way, you never answered AP's questions regarding why his post was deleted and the other posts were allowed to be edited to reflect no change.

                            Let all Oz be agreed;
                            I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Ally View Post
                              What a crock of ****. You know Spiro, if you are going to whore your own message boards on competing forums, that's one thing. But cut the bullshit where you try to pretend you are doing it as a service to the people on these message boards and not trying to drum up visitors and members to your own site.
                              Well, I certainly was not aware that other sites were competing with a specific writer’s site on the Whitechapel murders in its infancy, thanks for the tip. As people make their choices, I suppose you have already made up your own mind. Fair enough, but the site already has the members it needs for it to be of interest. Thanks but no thanks…

                              Originally posted by Ally View Post
                              I mean there's shameless and blatant self promotion, and then there's just flat out whoring lies.
                              Another half-baked, redneck assumption based on who knows what! Anything but a genuine interest in the subject apart from ill-begotten celebrity status. If I wanted blatant self-promotion I would market packaged food to mutton dressed up as lamb.

                              Originally posted by Ally View Post
                              And by the way, you never answered AP's questions regarding why his post was deleted and the other posts were allowed to be edited to reflect no change.
                              I have indeed, just read back a few posts where complaints on the management of a website should rather be directed to that site which of course does not guarantee that the matter is up for discussion with the admin of that site. I suppose that was visible enough here on Casebook.

                              And speaking of competing sites, you seem perfectly comfortable in pimping a site on the lies that constitute the claim that James Maybrick was Jack the Ripper. Perhaps you could start your own site, its a free world, its called free association and it equally applies online, so does following your own rules on abusive behaviours in trying to actually make a point.

                              Nevertheless, thanks for your interest and concern on a fledging display of taking an interest in a subject that for some is still an enjoyable and educational exercise.
                              Jack the Ripper Writers -- An online community of crime writers and historians.

                              http://ripperwriters.aforumfree.com

                              http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...nd-black-magic

                              "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer

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                              • #75
                                Boy with brains like yours I am surprised you can manage to write a single sentence much less a whole...wait a minute, what was it you wrote on the Ripper again that made you qualify as a "Jack the Ripper Writer"?? I don't think that question was ever answered either.

                                And as for me "pimping" a Maybrick site, uhm what site was that again that I own and go on other boards and whore for, because you know I am drawing a blank...

                                Unlike you sweetie, I am not so tacky as to try to drum up business for my enterprise by posting pathetic "Come join my site" ads on other forums. I'd have way too much dignity to do such a thing. Plus the stench of desperation, is a bit overwhelming when you do it.

                                And sweetie, if complaints are better left on your own website, then advertisements should be left there also.
                                Last edited by Ally; 06-14-2009, 10:35 PM.

                                Let all Oz be agreed;
                                I need a better class of flying monkeys.

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