The Real Mary Kelly

[Silverpaw]

Many have theorized that Mary Kelly's murder is the missing piece of the jigsaw. Uncover her real identity and you could solve the mystery of the Ripper murders once and for all.

Not sure I believe that, but it sounds good.

It seems that Prosector is claiming that Kelly/Davies wasn't murdered by a serial killer but by someone known to her who was motivated by revenge on her specifically so if his ID is correct (IF), it probably wouldn't shed much light on the other murders

[Sam Flynn]

Many have theorized that Mary Kelly's murder is the missing piece of the jigsaw. Uncover her real identity and you could solve the mystery of the Ripper murders once and for all.

Hmmm... thinking about the conspiracy-theorist orgy that could ensue makes me wonder whether establishing her ID is a good idea after all

[Harry D]

Many have theorized that Mary Kelly's murder is the missing piece of the jigsaw. Uncover her real identity and you could solve the mystery of the Ripper murders once and for all.

Not sure I believe that, but it sounds good.

[Sam Flynn]

I am hoping it is a genuine case of someone proposing a missing relative as MJK.

You're not the only one, Debs! Frankly, we were always going to need a plausible "family story" element, if not an (authentic) diary! Census records alone were unlikely to find us a definitive MJK.

[Silverpaw]

Hi Abby
I was quite skeptical at first (still am too to some degree, like you because of the Sickert mention ) but I confess I was a bit cranky last night too because of another poster and I let that get to me when I was posting.
However, after things I've read today and looked at I feel that there might be something going for this latest ID. Some of the details of the ID are already in the public domain and it isn't difficult to track the woman once you know these. It's extremely interesting so far and the research seems excellent.
I am hoping it is a genuine case of someone proposing a missing relative as MJK

There's one particular record that had me gobsmacked.

Agreed. Some of the research is very impressive from what I've been able to read. Can anyone remember whether Fiona Kendall-Lane said that her family knew the identity of Mary Kelly or was it just her killer? I can't remember if she cast doubt over Mary Kelly being her real name or not.

[Debra A]

looks like Debra is already all over it.
(and skeptical?)


I have to admit I lost a little bit of interest when prosector mentioned Sickert a while back.

Debs
have you already identified who prosector is claiming is mary Kelly?
and not very viable apparently?

Hi Abby
I was quite skeptical at first (still am too to some degree, like you because of the Sickert mention ) but I confess I was a bit cranky last night too because of another poster and I let that get to me when I was posting.
However, after things I've read today and looked at I feel that there might be something going for this latest ID. Some of the details of the ID are already in the public domain and it isn't difficult to track the woman once you know these. It's extremely interesting so far and the research seems excellent.
I am hoping it is a genuine case of someone proposing a missing relative as MJK

There's one particular record that had me gobsmacked.

[Silverpaw]

The claim is that Prosector's great-aunt Elizabeth Weston Davies was Mary Kelly. I don't know if there is any hard evidence for this, it appears to be solely based on a family story from what I can ascertain. It will be interesting to have a look at the sources for this and the other claims made in the book when it is fully available.

[Abby Normal]

looks like Debra is already all over it.
(and skeptical?)


I have to admit I lost a little bit of interest when prosector mentioned Sickert a while back.

Debs
have you already identified who prosector is claiming is mary Kelly?
and not very viable apparently?

[Silverpaw]

Thanks MayBea and GUT for your suggestions. Going back to FKL - did she ever write that book or talk any more about her family? I can't find any evidence that she did. I'd be interested to know if her ID of Kelly is the same as WWD's!

[GUT]

If it existed

"The East End Murderer -- I knew him."

Lionel Druitt wasn't a descendant but a cousin.

[GUT]

Depending what story you believe the Maybrick Diary may fit the bill.

[MayBea]

The only 'relative' books I can think of are:

The Fifth Victim by Antonia Alexander

The Last Victim by Ann Graham


Welcome, Silverpaw, to Mary Kelly's fire. May the flame burn the brighter and hotter for her....

P.S. It wouldn't be the first time that an unsolved crime was solved by a relative of the victim.

[Debra A]

Elizabeth Davies RIP

[DJA]

Berkeley Mather???

Prosector's father wrote the early James Bond movies and much more.

Hemingway and Fleming were fans.

Like my uncles,he fought in Syria.

[Debra A]

Prosector...might this be you? Is this the connection to MJK?? Kin??
Can't wait for the reveal. Berkeley Mather???

I have come to agree with Phil Carter-money talks.