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  • I just knew the delightful Birchwoods had helped Stevie Baby with his disclosure of the truth. And now it's there in print.

    One wonders which bits of the truth they helped him to remember, and how.

    It's all down in his book as personal recollection - of things and people he saw with his own eyes, or heard with his own ears, back in the 1970s.

    Curiouser and curiouser.

    Love,

    Caz
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    "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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    • Originally posted by Victoria View Post
      His music is, and was ahead of its time .. has substance, and a timeless quality about it.
      Original and different .. not the usual 'clone type'.
      No argument on the music, of which I am a big fan.

      Unfortunately, as these things go, I have drawn the short straw for the reviewing of the book for the Casebook Examiner.

      We'll be in touch. Steve, check your mail.

      For the record, I don't think Steve is a liar. Which may or not be a good thing, as I more inclined to think of it as outsider art.
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      • Hello Sir Robert,

        it was good to hear such a nice comment in regard to Steves'
        music .. thank you, on behalf of Steve.

        As you are reviewing the book, remember to email Steve as he
        cannot receive private messages .. being banned.

        It seems strange to me that people can find fault ..rightly or
        wrongly with say this book, but have no charity about them to
        even acknowledge the music .. which no-one could deny the talent
        of, even if it was not particularly their type of music.

        Caz,

        you are being ridiculous (no doubt on purpose) in suggesting that
        Maria and Peter Birchwwood helped him remember parts of his story.
        Maybe not ridiculous, but it does seem to me,
        curiouser and curiouser on your part .. as to why you would say this.

        The help is of course, more in line with their type of work .. assisting and
        helping to find people, and where and when those people were over the years.

        Not at all curious ...
        "Victoria Victoria, the queen of them all,
        of Sir Jack she knows nothing at all"

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        • A couple of thoughts, for what they're worth:

          1. Being present on this site on a daily basis while Powell was pulling his story together from the deep recesses of his amnesia, makes me wonder at the detail in his introduction wherein he recalls the conversation he and Park had about forging a diary while shaving. Powell literally created his story on this site, fragmented bit by fragmented bit, and even sodium pentathol wouldn't allow him to recall the details of that night.

          2. Maria Birchwood? Is this the same Maria that got run off this site because she was antagonistic and arrogant towards so many, and lied all the time to boot? maybe It's another Maria and not the one that was such an evil presence on this site. If she has anything to do with the book, someone needs to plant some trees because the paper was a waste of spruce.

          Mike
          huh?

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          • Originally posted by Victoria View Post
            Caz,

            you are being ridiculous (no doubt on purpose) in suggesting that
            Maria and Peter Birchwwood helped him remember parts of his story.
            Maybe not ridiculous, but it does seem to me,
            curiouser and curiouser on your part .. as to why you would say this.

            The help is of course, more in line with their type of work .. assisting and
            helping to find people, and where and when those people were over the years.

            Not at all curious ...
            Why I would say this?

            Why, it's elementary.

            There is nothing - NOTHING - in the book except the author's personal recollections of people and events.

            No factual support is offered, from the Birchwoods or anyone else, for where and when all the people mentioned were 'over the years', and would need to have been, for those recollections to have any basis in truth.

            It's a curious omission and a rather crucial one for the credibility of all concerned, not just Steve's. If the Birchwoods were good enough to provide him with the information that Feldy went to Australia, for example, or that he faked his own death, along with Robbie Johnson and Steve Park, why was their remarkable research not covered in the book, nor even considered worth a mention?

            I mean credit where credit's due and all that. As professionals, the Birchwoods surely deserved to see their findings in print so the vital part they played in assisting with Steve's version of events could be properly understood and fully acknowledged.

            I can't imagine why anyone should have any objection to that. Can you?

            Love,

            Caz
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            • Originally posted by caz View Post
              I just knew the delightful Birchwoods had helped Stevie Baby with his disclosure of the truth. And now it's there in print.

              One wonders which bits of the truth they helped him to remember, and how.

              It's all down in his book as personal recollection - of things and people he saw with his own eyes, or heard with his own ears, back in the 1970s.

              Curiouser and curiouser.

              Love,

              Caz
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              I can't seem to follow exactly what you are trying to say about the Birchwoods Caz ...

              I thought at first with the .. "I just knew the delightful Birchwoods" etc
              ... was an attempt of sarcasm.
              And an earlier post you referred to SB's "rubbish sources", not sure who or what that implied to?


              But it now seems perfectly? .. clear that it was only in my imagination ...

              Because now in your last post you refer to them, "as professionals" deserving
              to see their findings in print.

              And I believe that you even used the 'professional Birchwoods' in your own book, as did Stewart Evans.

              I believe that in their line of work they are very highly regarded, you may even have seen them on tv .. Heir Hunters, BBC.
              My mistake obviously, I shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly.
              "Victoria Victoria, the queen of them all,
              of Sir Jack she knows nothing at all"

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              • Originally posted by Victoria View Post
                Caz,

                you are being ridiculous (no doubt on purpose) in suggesting that
                Maria and Peter Birchwwood helped him remember parts of his story.
                Maybe not ridiculous, but it does seem to me,
                curiouser and curiouser on your part .. as to why you would say this.
                I will try to be diplomatic here.

                Let's just say that of all the people in Ripperdom that could have come to Steve's assistance, the Birchwoods were unfortuitous. You have to play the hands you're dealt, but this was drawing to an inside straight. Many would fold, and be thought no lesser of.

                But it will be a good question for my review: who was the prime mover here ?
                Managing Editor
                Casebook Wiki

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                • Originally posted by Victoria View Post
                  I can't seem to follow exactly what you are trying to say about the Birchwoods Caz ...

                  ...Because now in your last post you refer to them, "as professionals" deserving
                  to see their findings in print.

                  And I believe that you even used the 'professional Birchwoods' in your own book, as did Stewart Evans.
                  Well I could say an awful lot about Mrs B, but I won't. I know from personal dealings with her that she is not a well woman.

                  We acknowledged Peter Birchwood in Ripper Diary because our book is a record of the work done over the first decade by a whole variety of researchers to try and get to the bottom of the diary mystery.

                  Evidently both Birchwoods have finally reached the bottom with their appearance in Steve's acknowledgements.

                  Suffice to say, Mrs Birchwood was the one who fed Steve the misinformed gossip right here on the boards that Feldy had been to Australia at some point.

                  It's Steve's fault entirely that it can only be called misinformed gossip at this stage. If only he had included the Birchwood findings in his book, as they so richly deserved, we would now know exactly what to call it.

                  Love,

                  Caz
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                  • Fame or Infamy

                    I think it is really disgraceful that Steve Powell has been banned from this site and not given the opportunity to answer questions himself about the book he has written. I sent off for the book myself a couple of weeks ago and finished it yesterday. Definitely food for thought in my opinion.

                    What I would like to know is why the 'know it alls' on this site have so much power as to who can be banned or not? As a fully unpaid-up member of this site I have certainly not been consulted.

                    I originally joined Casebook about two years ago because I had just read Anne Graham's book on Florence Maybrick and wanted to find out more. I noticed the 'verbal violence' thrown at the Diary which made me very reluctant to post anything (although I have posted a bit). I have actually no idea who Jack the Ripper was but have left 'James Maybrick' as my favourite suspect on my 'View Profile' just to tease the 'mouthy' ones. I have bought and read every book I could find through the Amazon site on the Maybrick case and I feel I now know quite a lot.

                    To anyone who thinks I have directed this post to them then I can only quote the well-known adage: 'If the cap fits, wear it'.

                    Yours truly,
                    Carol

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                    • Originally posted by Carol View Post
                      What I would like to know is why the 'know it alls' on this site have so much power as to who can be banned or not? As a fully unpaid-up member of this site I have certainly not been consulted.
                      Only the admin has that power, Carol. And they don't need to consult you or me or anyone else about their decisions.

                      Love,

                      Caz
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                      "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                      • ah, yes.. " Infamy! Infamy ! They`ve all got it in fer me".
                        http://youtu.be/GcBr3rosvNQ

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                        • Originally posted by Rubyretro View Post
                          ah, yes.. " Infamy! Infamy ! They`ve all got it in fer me".

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                          • Originally posted by Chris View Post
                            exactly, Chris..
                            http://youtu.be/GcBr3rosvNQ

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                            • Originally posted by Rubyretro View Post
                              exactly, Chris..
                              But I can't help wondering whether anyone outside the UK (or under the age of 40?) has a clue what we're talking about.

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                              • Originally posted by Chris View Post
                                But I can't help wondering whether anyone outside the UK (or under the age of 40?) has a clue what we're talking about.
                                They don't know what they've missed!!!

                                Cleo. I has a poisonous Asp!

                                Mark Anthony. Oh I wouldn't say that!!!

                                Best wishes,

                                Zodiac.
                                And thus I clothe my naked villainy
                                With old odd ends, stol'n forth of holy writ;
                                And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.

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