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Originally posted by Carol View PostWhat I would like to know is why the 'know it alls' on this site have so much power as to who can be banned or not? As a fully unpaid-up member of this site I have certainly not been consulted.
Love,
Caz
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Fame or Infamy
I think it is really disgraceful that Steve Powell has been banned from this site and not given the opportunity to answer questions himself about the book he has written. I sent off for the book myself a couple of weeks ago and finished it yesterday. Definitely food for thought in my opinion.
What I would like to know is why the 'know it alls' on this site have so much power as to who can be banned or not? As a fully unpaid-up member of this site I have certainly not been consulted.
I originally joined Casebook about two years ago because I had just read Anne Graham's book on Florence Maybrick and wanted to find out more. I noticed the 'verbal violence' thrown at the Diary which made me very reluctant to post anything (although I have posted a bit). I have actually no idea who Jack the Ripper was but have left 'James Maybrick' as my favourite suspect on my 'View Profile' just to tease the 'mouthy' ones. I have bought and read every book I could find through the Amazon site on the Maybrick case and I feel I now know quite a lot.
To anyone who thinks I have directed this post to them then I can only quote the well-known adage: 'If the cap fits, wear it'.
Yours truly,
Carol
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Originally posted by Victoria View PostI can't seem to follow exactly what you are trying to say about the Birchwoods Caz ...
...Because now in your last post you refer to them, "as professionals" deserving
to see their findings in print.
And I believe that you even used the 'professional Birchwoods' in your own book, as did Stewart Evans.
We acknowledged Peter Birchwood in Ripper Diary because our book is a record of the work done over the first decade by a whole variety of researchers to try and get to the bottom of the diary mystery.
Evidently both Birchwoods have finally reached the bottom with their appearance in Steve's acknowledgements.
Suffice to say, Mrs Birchwood was the one who fed Steve the misinformed gossip right here on the boards that Feldy had been to Australia at some point.
It's Steve's fault entirely that it can only be called misinformed gossip at this stage. If only he had included the Birchwood findings in his book, as they so richly deserved, we would now know exactly what to call it.
Love,
Caz
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Originally posted by Victoria View PostCaz,
you are being ridiculous (no doubt on purpose) in suggesting that
Maria and Peter Birchwwood helped him remember parts of his story.
Maybe not ridiculous, but it does seem to me,
curiouser and curiouser on your part .. as to why you would say this.
Let's just say that of all the people in Ripperdom that could have come to Steve's assistance, the Birchwoods were unfortuitous. You have to play the hands you're dealt, but this was drawing to an inside straight. Many would fold, and be thought no lesser of.
But it will be a good question for my review: who was the prime mover here ?
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Originally posted by caz View PostI just knew the delightful Birchwoods had helped Stevie Baby with his disclosure of the truth. And now it's there in print.
One wonders which bits of the truth they helped him to remember, and how.
It's all down in his book as personal recollection - of things and people he saw with his own eyes, or heard with his own ears, back in the 1970s.
Curiouser and curiouser.
Love,
Caz
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I thought at first with the .. "I just knew the delightful Birchwoods" etc
... was an attempt of sarcasm.
And an earlier post you referred to SB's "rubbish sources", not sure who or what that implied to?
But it now seems perfectly? .. clear that it was only in my imagination ...
Because now in your last post you refer to them, "as professionals" deserving
to see their findings in print.
And I believe that you even used the 'professional Birchwoods' in your own book, as did Stewart Evans.
I believe that in their line of work they are very highly regarded, you may even have seen them on tv .. Heir Hunters, BBC.
My mistake obviously, I shouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly.
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Originally posted by Victoria View PostCaz,
you are being ridiculous (no doubt on purpose) in suggesting that
Maria and Peter Birchwwood helped him remember parts of his story.
Maybe not ridiculous, but it does seem to me,
curiouser and curiouser on your part .. as to why you would say this.
The help is of course, more in line with their type of work .. assisting and
helping to find people, and where and when those people were over the years.
Not at all curious ...
Why, it's elementary.
There is nothing - NOTHING - in the book except the author's personal recollections of people and events.
No factual support is offered, from the Birchwoods or anyone else, for where and when all the people mentioned were 'over the years', and would need to have been, for those recollections to have any basis in truth.
It's a curious omission and a rather crucial one for the credibility of all concerned, not just Steve's. If the Birchwoods were good enough to provide him with the information that Feldy went to Australia, for example, or that he faked his own death, along with Robbie Johnson and Steve Park, why was their remarkable research not covered in the book, nor even considered worth a mention?
I mean credit where credit's due and all that. As professionals, the Birchwoods surely deserved to see their findings in print so the vital part they played in assisting with Steve's version of events could be properly understood and fully acknowledged.
I can't imagine why anyone should have any objection to that. Can you?
Love,
Caz
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A couple of thoughts, for what they're worth:
1. Being present on this site on a daily basis while Powell was pulling his story together from the deep recesses of his amnesia, makes me wonder at the detail in his introduction wherein he recalls the conversation he and Park had about forging a diary while shaving. Powell literally created his story on this site, fragmented bit by fragmented bit, and even sodium pentathol wouldn't allow him to recall the details of that night.
2. Maria Birchwood? Is this the same Maria that got run off this site because she was antagonistic and arrogant towards so many, and lied all the time to boot? maybe It's another Maria and not the one that was such an evil presence on this site. If she has anything to do with the book, someone needs to plant some trees because the paper was a waste of spruce.
Mike
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Hello Sir Robert,
it was good to hear such a nice comment in regard to Steves'
music .. thank you, on behalf of Steve.
As you are reviewing the book, remember to email Steve as he
cannot receive private messages .. being banned.
It seems strange to me that people can find fault ..rightly or
wrongly with say this book, but have no charity about them to
even acknowledge the music .. which no-one could deny the talent
of, even if it was not particularly their type of music.
Caz,
you are being ridiculous (no doubt on purpose) in suggesting that
Maria and Peter Birchwwood helped him remember parts of his story.
Maybe not ridiculous, but it does seem to me,
curiouser and curiouser on your part .. as to why you would say this.
The help is of course, more in line with their type of work .. assisting and
helping to find people, and where and when those people were over the years.
Not at all curious ...
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Originally posted by Victoria View PostHis music is, and was ahead of its time .. has substance, and a timeless quality about it.
Original and different .. not the usual 'clone type'.
Unfortunately, as these things go, I have drawn the short straw for the reviewing of the book for the Casebook Examiner.
We'll be in touch. Steve, check your mail.
For the record, I don't think Steve is a liar. Which may or not be a good thing, as I more inclined to think of it as outsider art.
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I just knew the delightful Birchwoods had helped Stevie Baby with his disclosure of the truth. And now it's there in print.
One wonders which bits of the truth they helped him to remember, and how.
It's all down in his book as personal recollection - of things and people he saw with his own eyes, or heard with his own ears, back in the 1970s.
Curiouser and curiouser.
Love,
Caz
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I just had a look at Steve's website. He writes in a strange patois that is probably slightly connected to the English language. Unreadable.
Make that fiver a twenty pound note, Chris...
Graham
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Fame or Infamy
Hello to all ..
just for anyone still interested in a copy of Steve Powells'
book 'FAME OR INFAMY' ...
The good news is that it has now been made more accessable
to all .. as Steve has imported copies himself to distribute.
He is offering it with free postage within Australia, but even for
overseas, it will now be much cheaper to obtain this way.
Let me again stress that this is not a money making scheme for
Steve .. it is something he wholeheartedly believes in 100%.
He just wants people to read it with an open mind, then decide
for themselves.
I am currently reading the new second edition and enjoying it
very much. I had an email from someone else today who commented
how much they were enjoying it also .. 'very interesting and readable,
not dry and boring like a lot of other ripperology books', was in the
comment I received.
This is the site to go to ...
www.stevepowellproductions.com.
And also there he has his music, which has recently been re-mastered from vinyl
into cd format.
There are two albums, the original 1975 'cult classic', 'Celestial Madness'
which is sought after by music collectors, I have seen it sold on the
internet for over $600.
Every song is absolutely fantastic ..I may be a friend and somewhat
biased, but it is true.
The same goes for the newer album 'Always Alive' .. every song is perfect.
His music is, and was ahead of its time .. has substance, and a timeless quality about it.
Original and different .. not the usual 'clone type'.
There is a 'juke box' on the site, and you can hear some selections for yourself.
I especially love 'Age and Wonder' and 'Always Alive' .. they are on the juke box.
ENJOY ...
all best wishes to everyone,
Victoria
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Apparently, the three people who helped Feldy fake the finished diary didn't have to fake their own deaths because nobody is going to suspect them in a million years.
How could anyone knock the simple logic and total lack of guile in that statement, by which SB is able - in his own mind - to turn the most implausible suspects into the most plausible? Magic.
Of course Feldy (and sadly he's not alone) was destined to fake his own death just in case anyone would actually be dim enough to suspect him on the basis of SB's fairy tales. Tragic.
Love,
Caz
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