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  • #61
    Originally posted by m_w_r View Post
    I've no axe to grind in any of this, but I thought I would share one quote from this publication which particularly struck me:

    "Never again would I underestimate an audience's intelligence." (p.61)

    But this was in 1974...

    Regards,

    Mark
    It arrived then!

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    • #62
      Originally posted by John Bennett View Post
      It arrived then!
      mine has too ...

      Hi 'premium' Caz ..have you not got your own copy?
      Then you would be able to find your 'own gems' without relying on others.
      "Victoria Victoria, the queen of them all,
      of Sir Jack she knows nothing at all"

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      • #63
        I'm waiting for the sequel myself.

        "Infamy, infamy. They've all got it in for me"

        Rob

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Victoria View Post
          Hi 'premium' Caz ..have you not got your own copy?
          Perhaps you could ask yourself why the hell I would put a penny piece in Powell's pocket when the pennies that earned me 'premium' Caz (an unexpected bonus) buy me enough gems to last me all year.

          Love,

          Caz
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          PS What did you make of the Anne Frank gem? Assuming you've got to page 2.
          Last edited by caz; 04-22-2010, 06:57 PM.
          "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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          • #65
            Originally posted by John Bennett View Post
            It arrived then!
            It did! I'm about halfway through now. Loving the ee cummings approach to grammar, syntax and punctuation.

            "Anne." was her flat response.
            (p.28)

            Regards,

            Mark

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            • #66
              "Infamy, infamy. They've all got it in for me"

              He He, classic Kenneth Williams

              tj
              It's not about what you know....it's about what you can find out

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              • #67
                "Ooooh, yes, no, shut yer face, yes diary...ooooh mussus no, now....mocking, mocking, yes, now, Anne....naughty....what?" - Paul Feldman pge 18.

                Monty
                Monty

                https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

                Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                • #68
                  Premium Caz,
                  very nice of you to ask my opinion about page 2 ..
                  I am not an expert book reviewer like you!

                  But here is the simple way that I saw it ..

                  Steve is just writing it as he remembers the incident.

                  Steven had obviously read things about Anne Frank and her
                  diary, also the allegations that came about in I think the late 50's
                  that it was written by a man .. and possibly that she did not even exist.
                  I think that even now some people think it was not her.
                  But in all this remember .. that they were just young men, not experts
                  in history and the world.
                  He is just relaying the conversation had by them at that time.
                  "Victoria Victoria, the queen of them all,
                  of Sir Jack she knows nothing at all"

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                  • #69
                    Amazing he could remember anything at all, Vic. You make it sound like they were drugged up to the eyeballs.

                    "iTs thE Gods honEsT TruTh and wot hAvE you... iTs your round TonE, gET em in... eh? eh? cAlm down cAlm down FEldy lAd, do yer wAnt to mAkE yer forTune or noT? I sEEn the dAiry... your round TonE, gET em in you scAlly and wot have you"

                    Mike Barrett page 69

                    Love,

                    Caz
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                    "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                    • #70
                      Hi premium Caz,

                      maybe I am a little thick here ..but I don't follow you,
                      maybe you are the one 'drugged up to the eyeballs',
                      your post does look weird to me ..

                      I have just re-read my post and it makes sense to me ..
                      I cannot see anything there that looks like I am inferring
                      anything like that.

                      Maybe I just don't have much of a sense of humour today?
                      And what book are you reading .. my page 69 is obviously different to yours?

                      I might look for some 'gems' myself to share with you,
                      along with my opinion, for what it's worth ...

                      love,

                      Vic
                      "Victoria Victoria, the queen of them all,
                      of Sir Jack she knows nothing at all"

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                      • #71
                        Please can I have some cheese? B. Spears
                        “be just and fear not”

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                        • #72
                          Caz,

                          Since you asked, I particularly like this one, from p.104.

                          History can be warped by people who don't know, can't see or don't understand the truth.
                          Regards,

                          Mark

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Victoria View Post
                            Steven had obviously read things about Anne Frank and her
                            diary, also the allegations that came about in I think the late 50's
                            that it was written by a man .. and possibly that she did not even exist.
                            I think that even now some people think it was not her.
                            But in all this remember .. that they were just young men, not experts
                            in history and the world.
                            He is just relaying the conversation had by them at that time.
                            Yeah, so it would have been better for Stevie Baby if he had made it clear right there on page 2 that he knows these were just the mindless ramblings of a couple of ignorant young hippies. From about 1960 onwards the only people who were putting it about that Anne Frank never existed or that her diary was a fake would have been rabid far right holocaust-denying loonies, or the kind of loonies who looked up to them and wanted to believe it.

                            Now maybe you can correct me here, but I didn't really have Stevie Baby down as the sort to go along with political stuff of this hue. I pictured the two Steves sitting around in the sunshine of the late sixties strumming their guitars and saying things like "Hey man, peace and love, can you spare some bread?" - not swallowing dirty great lumps of right-wing BS from God alone knows what sources.

                            That's why I could hardly believe my eyes when I read that they had discussed the forged diary of Anne Frank and agreed that she made a boring subject for fakery compared with Jack the Ripper because she was stuck in an attic all the time.

                            A kinder conclusion would be that they were drugged up to the eyeballs at the time. Or would you prefer it to be put down to yet another false memory and complete fiction?

                            Love,

                            Caz
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                            "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by m_w_r View Post
                              Caz,

                              Since you asked, I particularly like this one, from p.104.

                              Quote:
                              History can be warped by people who don't know, can't see or don't understand the truth.


                              Regards,

                              Mark
                              Like eye witnesses, for example, whose memories can play the oddest tricks.

                              Love,

                              Caz
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                              "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by jdpegg View Post
                                Please can I have some cheese? B. Spears
                                Page 130
                                "Victoria Victoria, the queen of them all,
                                of Sir Jack she knows nothing at all"

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